Comments Thread For: Yuriorkis Gamboa Eyes Lomachenko, Walters Bouts

[Eastcoast]

He wanted to work with 50, that's the sad part.

And when 50 offered top rank 2 mill for him, top rank couldn't get that deal done quick enough.

I fear the same thing will happen to Mikey Garcia once he forces his way from top rank.

Add Chavez Jr to that TR curse.

[Killer_of_Sheep]

Its so boring when people keep bringing up Crawford's size as if it was THE ONLY reason why he beat Gamboa or that it was Gamboa's fault because he suddenly started to brawl away. No, it was Crawford who made him fight the way he did.

Come on, Gamboa was beating Crawford for three rounds then Crawford adjusted. He didn't impose his size on Gamboa, he wasn't physical, he was boxing. He was using his right jab to keep Gamboa at a distance and making him lunge to get his shots, and when Gamboa lunged, Crawford countered. Just look at the first kockdown, it was a perfect counterpunch while Gamboa lunged to throw a right hand.

And the rest is history.

Gamboa might be an impressive physical talent, but Crawford outboxed and outsmarted him.

[ИATAS]

Its so boring when people keep bringing up Crawford's size as if it was THE ONLY reason why he beat Gamboa or that it was Gamboa's fault because he suddenly started to brawl away. No, it was Crawford who made him fight the way he did.

Come on, Gamboa was beating Crawford for three rounds then Crawford adjusted. He didn't impose his size on Gamboa, he wasn't physical, he was boxing. He was using his right jab to keep Gamboa at a distance and making him lunge to get his shots, and when Gamboa lunged, Crawford countered. Just look at the first kockdown, it was a perfect counterpunch while Gamboa lunged to throw a right hand.

And the rest is history.

Gamboa might be an impressive physical talent, but Crawford outboxed and outsmarted him.

Size was a huge factor man, it shouldn't be ignored. You had Gamboa in a weight class above what he should be at (ideally 126, 130 tops) and another guy who boiled down to make 135 who's big enough to be a welterweight (152 pounds in the ring). Of course that's not the only reason, but I'd say if Crawford was the same size and a naturally 126/130 pounder that fight ends differently.

[Killer_of_Sheep]

Size was a huge factor man, it shouldn't be ignored. You had Gamboa in a weight class above what he should be at (ideally 126, 130 tops) and another guy who boiled down to make 135 who's big enough to be a welterweight (152 pounds in the ring). Of course that's not the only reason, but I'd say if Crawford was the same size and a naturally 126/130 pounder that fight ends differently.

I think size might have helped Crawford to eat the punches Gamboa was landing (punches that usually knock people down or out). But that's about it.

Thing is, Crawford is not a physical fighter, he's a boxer-puncher. He doesn't push people around or lay on them, or fight in close, where the size really makes a difference. He's not that kind of fighter.

I don't think Gamboa would have beaten him had the size difference wasn't as great. For me, what made the difference in the fight was Crawford's ability to adjust and think on the fly.

[SalimShady1212]

Gamboa has some serious talent, he could do some damage. Crawford was just too big.

[SalimShady1212]

I think size might have helped Crawford to eat the punches Gamboa was landing (punches that usually knock people down or out). But that's about it.

Thing is, Crawford is not a physical fighter, he's a boxer-puncher. He doesn't push people around or lay on them, or fight in close, where the size really makes a difference. He's not that kind of fighter.

I don't think Gamboa would have beaten him had the size difference wasn't as great. For me, what made the difference in the fight was Crawford's ability to adjust and think on the fly.

If Crawford was Gamboa's size he would have been asleep.

[ИATAS]

I think size might have helped Crawford to eat the punches Gamboa was landing (punches that usually knock people down or out). But that's about it.

Thing is, Crawford is not a physical fighter, he's a boxer-puncher. He doesn't push people around or lay on them, or fight in close, where the size really makes a difference. He's not that kind of fighter.

I don't think Gamboa would have beaten him had the size difference wasn't as great. For me, what made the difference in the fight was Crawford's ability to adjust and think on the fly.

Crawford isn't a physical fighter, sure I agree, but keep in mind Gamboa was fighting in a weight class he really didn't belong in and Crawford was not naturally a 135 pounder. So that's quite a gap in size. Those shots landing on Gamboa's head was going from a guy who weighed 152 pounds, keep that in mind and when you consider Gamboa is much more of a natural 126/130 pounder, you can start to see how impactful that is.

It's hard to say how good Crawford is because we haven't seen him fight anyone his own size really, besides broken Dulorme.

[gmc_rfc_06]

A number of things played a role in the Crawford fight.

The size difference was a massive factor, Gamboa's extended layoff was a big factor and conditioning was another factor. Ultimately, it doesn't matter as what's done is done, but I do feel Gamboa is the better fighter.

Crawford is naturally far bigger than Loma and Walters. One killed himself to get to 135, the others can make 126.

[theface07]

You sound like the stereotypical boxer who just got destroyed and says how good he was doing until he was caught by a "lucky punch". Gamboa was not "schooling" Crawford, he was using his Cuban style to try to confuse Crawford but once Crawford figured out his timing, Gamboa was finished. I would call that, getting outboxed and subsequently, outgunned. You say you're not sold on Crawford because he was getting outboxed by a shorter fighter? You can't really know much about boxing if you automatically think the taller fighter should be the best boxer. Ever see Sugar Ray Leonard fight? He was typically the shorter fighter against his toughest competition and was more times than not, the better boxer. Height is irrelevant unless you can use it properly. The taller fighter can also be the harder puncher. It's a case by case basis. Height is not a measuring stick.

u dont know if he's ruined as fighter until u see him in another top level fight again..truth is gamboa was controlling the fight and out of nowhere he gets hit and without be hurt he let his brawling tactics take over..and this is one of the reasons im not sold on crawford yet..he was getting a bit of a schooling from a much shorter fighter

[theface07]

A number of things played a role in the Crawford fight.

The size difference was a massive factor, Gamboa's extended layoff was a big factor and conditioning was another factor. Ultimately, it doesn't matter as what's done is done, but I do feel Gamboa is the better fighter.

Crawford is naturally far bigger than Loma and Walters. One killed himself to get to 135, the others can make 126.

Stop making excuses! He took the fight, he should've been prepared to face the consequences. Only modern fans with little to no knowledge of real boxers from the past would make a ridiculous comment like this about weight advantages being the excuse for their favorite boxers losing. You probably aren't aware but throughout the history of boxing, great fighters who have cleaned out one division would often move up in weight to further enhance their legacy and take on tougher competition and actually win. This is what you do when you're looking to be challenged and take on all challengers. This is not, however, the typical mindset of boxers today who are more often than not, trying to avoid risk any way possible. That's why there are so few 50/50 fights anymore because boxing is much more of a business than a competitive sport and too many mindless sheep who call themselves boxing fans are happy to accept this situation.