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What current fighter goes through Mayweathers resume undefeated?
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Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View PostKovalev................
Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View PostBroner.
If big bro did it then it's like lil bro did it too. Even if he got his ass whooped by Maidana.
Originally posted by BrometheusBob View PostLMAO this thread heated up real dam quick. I'm pretty sure I've already seen a similar thread not all that long ago, but whatever.It's worth having these gold responses.
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Great resume, but let's take a look at this hard resume.
Manny 36 yr old, at the end of a long hard career, not the same since JMM fight.
Maidana coming off Broner win (Floyd knew Broner was a joke) he was just in wars with average fighters right before Broner. He couldn't wear his gloves also, if Maidana wore the pillows against Broner he might have lost (who knows?)
Canelo catchweight at 152 (catchweights don't count doe) we don't even know he is any good yet. Why not fight him at 154? He did with Cotto because he wanted to fight the best Cotto supposedly.
Guerrero smaller fighter who went life and death with Berto and Kamegai
before and after Floyd fights.
Cotto Margarito and Manny already beat the prime out of him.
Ortiz Maidana already made him quit, had to sucker punch the biggest quitter in the sport.
Mosley legend, but at the end, off 15 months prior to fight, Mosley still rocked Floyd.
JMM legend, but 135 at the time, plus no roids.
Hatton 140 fighter, not effective at 147 (1-2 career 2 KO losses) he struggled with Collazo (should have lost).
De La Hoya end of career, was 2-2 last 4 before Floyd (wins Mayorga and Sturm, he got a gift against Sturm). He also retired rather than rematch Oscar.
Judah best days behind him, still gave Floyd problem, even dropping him, but the ref messed up.
What about when he retired to avoid a hot 147, Paul Williams, Cotto and Margarito? Sergio offered to come down to 150.
So as you can see, it isn't who you fought, it is when you fought them.
Has he fought a lot of good fighters? yes, but he is a good matchmaker just like Arum.
If you notice, most fighters he fought where at the end (plus a lot of wear and tear, which is huge).
It is good to have heroes, but don't pretend he never ducked anyone or has cherry picked for years. Berto is just the most obvious by far.
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Originally posted by ironmike2012 View PostGreat resume, but let's take a look at this hard resume.
Manny 36 yr old, at the end of a long hard career, not the same since JMM fight.
Maidana coming off Broner win (Floyd knew Broner was a joke) he was just in wars with average fighters right before Broner. He couldn't wear his gloves also, if Maidana wore the pillows against Broner he might have lost (who knows?)
Canelo catchweight at 152 (catchweights don't count doe) we don't even know he is any good yet. Why not fight him at 154? He did with Cotto because he wanted to fight the best Cotto supposedly.
Guerrero smaller fighter who went life and death with Berto and Kamegai
before and after Floyd fights.
Cotto Margarito and Manny already beat the prime out of him.
Ortiz Maidana already made him quit, had to sucker punch the biggest quitter in the sport.
Mosley legend, but at the end, off 15 months prior to fight, Mosley still rocked Floyd.
JMM legend, but 135 at the time, plus no roids.
Hatton 140 fighter, not effective at 147 (1-2 career 2 KO losses) he struggled with Collazo (should have lost).
De La Hoya end of career, was 2-2 last 4 before Floyd (wins Mayorga and Sturm, he got a gift against Sturm). He also retired rather than rematch Oscar.
Judah best days behind him, still gave Floyd problem, even dropping him, but the ref messed up.
What about when he retired to avoid a hot 147, Paul Williams, Cotto and Margarito? Sergio offered to come down to 150.
So as you can see, it isn't who you fought, it is when you fought them.
Has he fought a lot of good fighters? yes, but he is a good matchmaker just like Arum.
If you notice, most fighters he fought where at the end (plus a lot of wear and tear, which is huge).
It is good to have heroes, but don't pretend he never ducked anyone or has cherry picked for years. Berto is just the most obvious by far.well, since you put it that way....guess Floyd's a bum.
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Originally posted by LittleMacAttack View PostYou are putting Pacquiao (or whoever else) in Mayweather's shoes. Yes Mayweather never fought anyone 4 times, and neither would Pac if he fought the same people as Mayweather. That's all I'm saying. Pacquiao would have never lost to Marquez if he only fought him once, which would be the case if he had Mayweather's resume.
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Originally posted by ironmike2012 View PostGreat resume, but let's take a look at this hard resume.
Manny 36 yr old, at the end of a long hard career, not the same since JMM fight.
Maidana coming off Broner win (Floyd knew Broner was a joke) he was just in wars with average fighters right before Broner. He couldn't wear his gloves also, if Maidana wore the pillows against Broner he might have lost (who knows?)
Canelo catchweight at 152 (catchweights don't count doe) we don't even know he is any good yet. Why not fight him at 154? He did with Cotto because he wanted to fight the best Cotto supposedly.
Guerrero smaller fighter who went life and death with Berto and Kamegai
before and after Floyd fights.
Cotto Margarito and Manny already beat the prime out of him.
Ortiz Maidana already made him quit, had to sucker punch the biggest quitter in the sport.
Mosley legend, but at the end, off 15 months prior to fight, Mosley still rocked Floyd.
JMM legend, but 135 at the time, plus no roids.
Hatton 140 fighter, not effective at 147 (1-2 career 2 KO losses) he struggled with Collazo (should have lost).
De La Hoya end of career, was 2-2 last 4 before Floyd (wins Mayorga and Sturm, he got a gift against Sturm). He also retired rather than rematch Oscar.
Judah best days behind him, still gave Floyd problem, even dropping him, but the ref messed up.
What about when he retired to avoid a hot 147, Paul Williams, Cotto and Margarito? Sergio offered to come down to 150.
So as you can see, it isn't who you fought, it is when you fought them.
Has he fought a lot of good fighters? yes, but he is a good matchmaker just like Arum.
If you notice, most fighters he fought where at the end (plus a lot of wear and tear, which is huge).
It is good to have heroes, but don't pretend he never ducked anyone or has cherry picked for years. Berto is just the most obvious by far.
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Originally posted by LarryXXX View PostJMM
But he got put to sleep by him man,so that takes Manny out
EDIT: Since I've noticed you are having this same discussion with someone else, I'd like to add that Mayweather fought Marquez at a much later point than Pac/Marquez 1. Had Pac/Marquez 1 been made at the time Floyd fought it would have gone differently. I'm not prepared to say Pac definitely wins it though.
If anything my biggest concern would be the fights at 154.. though he beat Cotto and ODLH and lower weights I suppose.. so I guess my main concern would be Canelo @ 152 who would probably have more to offer than Margarito @ 150 or so you would think.Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 07-28-2015, 10:46 PM.
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Originally posted by LarryXXX View Postand this can be done to anyones resume easily by ignoring that they were champions and making excuses
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