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  • The Big Dunn
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    #21
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    What does that have to do with bigotry?! It's simple, it either happens on HBO or doesn't happen, due to Kov's exclusive contract.
    When Kov avoided the purse bid he wasn't with HBO, so your post is garbage.

    As for bigotry, what else would you call it when posters openly call for the entity that offers the lower amount of money to get the fight to choose which network broadcasts the fight?

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      #22
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      When Kov avoided the purse bid he wasn't with HBO, so your post is garbage.

      As for bigotry, what else would you call it when posters openly call for the entity that offers the lower amount of money to get the fight to choose which network broadcasts the fight?
      And now he's with HBO so it's beside the point.

      You should look up bigotry in the dictionary, dumbfcuk. Also look up "exclusive contract"

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        #23
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        And now he's with HBO so it's beside the point.

        You should look up bigotry in the dictionary, dumbfcuk. Also look up "exclusive contract"
        what else do you call it when fans like you want the white owned company that is bidding less money to get the rights to the fight over the non white owned company that is offering more? Racism and bigotry are the words that come to mind.

        Yes, he signed with HBO instead of fighting Stevenson. You say it like it's a good thing? He ran from the purse bid he asked for, that should take precedent over the contract he signed afterwards.

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          #24
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          What does that have to do with bigotry?! It's simple, it either happens on HBO or doesn't happen, due to Kov's exclusive contract.
          You don't see how HBO is a problem there? Only certain people can be a problem with a its here or nowhere stance? I mean fair enough if you have a here or nowhere stance on making a fight, but you are gonna have to pay. HBO is trying to say its here or nowhere & get a discount lol. Thats COMPLETE BULL****.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            what else do you call it when fans like you want the white owned company that is bidding less money to get the rights to the fight over the non white owned company that is offering more? Racism and bigotry are the words that come to mind.

            Yes, he signed with HBO instead of fighting Stevenson. You say it like it's a good thing? He ran from the purse bid he asked for, that should take precedent over the contract he signed afterwards.
            Again idiot, of the 2 guys one has an exclusive contract with the network, Kovalev. That means it happens on HBO or not at all. Where's the bigotry, dumbfcuk? For Stevenson not taking it means much less money for much less risk, something he seems to be happy with.

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              #26
              Originally posted by NEETzsche
              we were robbed of a fight that was on the verge of happening. for the record i don't bother watching stevenson any more, and it seems that many people feel the same way, hence his rapidly declining sales and viewership and descent into irrelevancy. he may as well be retired as far as world championship boxing is concerned
              You are blaming that all on one side when there is more at work than one side. If HBO was willing to pay market value the fight woulda happened. You can't blame just Stevenson if you are being a fair & reasonable & non-agenda driven person.

              Talking about anything PBC related here involving certain people is like talking to a bunch of feminist who think if a man & woman get drunk together & had sex, the man ****d the woman. I don't disagree that PBC is doing some **** wrong, they are ****ing up some **** no question. Some of it is probably strategic, but some of it is just dumb ****. Having said that EVERYTHING PBC does isn't the problem. There is plenty of ****ing up going on in boxing lets be real & HBO not giving fair market value to make that fight plays into this too.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                You are blaming that all on one side when there is more at work than one side. If HBO was willing to pay market value the fight woulda happened. You can't blame just Stevenson if you are being a fair & reasonable & non-agenda driven person.

                Talking about anything PBC related here involving certain people is like talking to a bunch of feminist who think if a man & woman get drunk together & had sex, the man ****d the woman. I don't disagree that PBC is doing some **** wrong, they are ****ing up some **** no question. Some of it is probably strategic, but some of it is just dumb ****. Having said that EVERYTHING PBC does isn't the problem. There is plenty of ****ing up going on in boxing lets be real & HBO not giving fair market value to make that fight plays into this too.
                he abandoned virtually every meaningful fight he could have been involved in for an extra $100k for something. if he was confident that he'd beat kovalev he would have had the pascal pay day awaiting him afterwards, which would surely net him even more than the $3.25m that kovalev received for that fight. but the truth is that stevenson was terrified of kov. he only gained the courage to mention his name once he was safely under haymon's wing

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by NEETzsche
                  he abandoned virtually every meaningful fight he could have been involved in for an extra $100k for something. if he was confident that he'd beat kovalev he would have had the pascal pay day awaiting him afterwards, which would surely net him even more than the $3.25m that kovalev received for that fight. but the truth is that stevenson was terrified of kov. he only gained the courage to mention his name once he was safely under haymon's wing
                  I think you aren't making sense. He mighta got paid 100k more for a opponent less challenging than Kov, but he'd had gotten paid much more if it was vs Kov so you can't compare what HBO was willing to pay vs Kov & what Stevenson got post-HBO vs another cat. At this point I got very lil interest in all the exact figures cuz this is all old news & irrelevant, but I know if HBO who has a huge budget for boxing each year had paid what the fight was worth the fight woulda happened. Simple as that. You can't just blame the guy trying to get his value when there is another bigger stronger entity involved whos trying to Walmart its employees & *****.

                  Whatever Stevenson & Kov had that happened next has nothing to do with what happened before once HBO showed no interest in paying fair market value. Everything that happened later wouldn't have happened if HBO had fulfilled their end in making this fight happen, not just once, but twice. Duva seemed to legit wanna make the fight, but once PBC entered into boxing she didn't get the support she needed from HBO to make the fight happen. HBO bears fault in Kov vs Stevenson not happening. And I'd suggest most of the fault since they were the biggest player involved in not making that fight.

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                    #29
                    Stevenson's most recent fight was against Bika, in the afternoon on CBS - no Canadian PPV and a less than half full arena in Quebec City. I have no idea how much his purse was, but someone took a bath on that fight.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      I know Kov only got 750k vs his bum last weekend & I think Stevenson made a mill or more fighting his more known but older bum + lighter weight guy last time out. I'm thinking Kov probably made a nice amount vs Pascal though, but Stevenson hasn't really fought anyone on par with Pascal (imo anyway). Therefore I think you could get this result or that result, but it seems like vs comparable talent in opposing corners Stevenson is making out better.
                      It's ****** how people like to lie, just a little bit, to justified their comments.
                      Kovalev first payday was B-hop, with 650 000$. Around 2.4 millions to fight Jean Pascal. Stevenson made 1.8 millions only with Fonfara, he never made under that amount, til he fought Bika for 3 millions.
                      So please do the math, Stevenson & Kovalev on another network would easely raise a purse of 10 millions each, but under HBO control they would never invest 6 millions to split 3 millions each.
                      You guys, should wonder why Stevenson has a Mercedes-Benz SLS, a Lamborghini Huracán & a Rolls-Royce Wraith, part of his toys/cars collection.
                      Stevenson Haymon & his promoter knows how to count money, and it's normal Stevenson wants a fair payday to fight his alter-ego.

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