Larry Holmes says he can still beat Wladimir Klitschko although he's age 65

[Simurgh]

Styles make fights and IMO holmes style is not particulary troublesome for Wlad (not to say homes isnt a great fighter, because he is).

prime for prime IMO, Wlad takes it. Not many can beat wlad and not KO him. I dont see holmes koing him. I would give better chance to quite a few fighters to beat prime wlad over holmes.

[New England]

The Ring Magazine's esteem dissipated a LONG time ago. Today, it is merely the tool of a near bankrupt promotional outfit.


Yeah, it is. Vitali was ACTIVE and the #2 HW in the world when Wlad and Chageav fought, Genius.


LOL.

Am I supposed to be impressed?

I was a boxing fan during the prime Tyson years. I was right there to witness the RISE and the FALL. Where were you? Still sucking you mom's ****?


That was THEN, this is NOW.


But it is NOW. Let's stay up to date and not revise history.



That was THEN, this is NOW.


The Ring Magazine, or more appropriately, Golden Boy Promotions, does NOT decide who is or who isn't champion in a given division.



The Ring Magazine, or more appropriately, Golden Boy Promotions, does NOT decide who is or who isn't champion in a given division.

this is a post of copy and pasting that isn't designed for a response or any reasonable dialogue. i'm not going to go by each copy and pasted point separately, so i'll address the important one:

you clearly have no concept of the historic esteem of ring magazine, or the boxing writer, as evidenced by the quote, "Ring Magazine does means less than squat where boxing history and tradition is concerned."

you cannot possibly consider yourself a learned boxing historian or consumer if you believe that. ring magazine was the primary authority on rankings and championship lineage for several generations. you posted it, so clearly you believe it. you are not a learned boxing historian or consumer.


you may create you own rankings. nobody f#cking cares! nobody is going to read your rankings when wladimir klitschko is inducted into the hall of fame.

ring magazine recognized wladimir klitschko as the lineal champion of the world after he beat #3 ranked chagaev. this was done because the two top ranked fighters, the klitschko brothers, would not fight.


here's a clip from cliff rold's p4p list. he's got a vote in the hall of fame.
Age: 39
Current Titles: IBF Heavyweight (2006-Present, 18 Defenses); WBO Heavyweight (2008-Present, 14 Defenses); Lineal/Ring World Heavyweight (2009-Present, 11 Defenses); WBA ‘Super’ Heavyweight (2011-Present, 8 Defenses); TBRB Heavyweight (2013-Present, 3 Defenses)

[JakeTheBoxer]

Ross Purrity, Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster all disagree...

They all beat Wlad when he was young and unexperienced.

He easily beats that kind of fighters nowadays..

Wlad is unbeatable right now.

[TBear]

Also, Butterbean was robbed against Holmes.

That was a very one sided boxing lesson by Holmes.

[SN!PER]

That would be hilarious to watch.

[KnockoutNed]

Holmes is out to lunch if he thinks he could fight at 65. That being said I agree with him on Wlad not being a threat to him and not surviving in his era.

[Nay_Sayer]

this is a post of copy and pasting that isn't designed for a response or any reasonable dialogue. i'm not going to go by each copy and pasted point separately, so i'll address the important one:

Read properly: you can't make a coherent argument against my logic.

I accept your surrender.

you clearly have no concept of the historic esteem of ring magazine,

The Ring Magazine's "esteem" dissipated a LONG time ago. Today it is nothing more than a tool for a near bankrupt promotional outfit.

ring magazine was the primary authority on rankings and championship lineage for several generations.

The operative word in this sentence is the word "WAS". As in PAST TENSE. What part of the statement "that was THEN, this is NOW" do you NOT understand?

ring magazine recognized wladimir klitschko as the lineal champion of the world after he beat #3 ranked chagaev.

The Ring Magazine does NOT determine who is or who is not a champion in a given division.

here's a clip from cliff rold's p4p list. he's got a vote in the hall of fame.

LOL.

The fact that you would quote Cliff Rold PROVES that YDKSAB.

[Nay_Sayer]

They all beat Wlad when he was young and unexperienced.

Please stop with this BS. Wlad was 40-1 for the Sanders fight. You Klttards need to take your medication..

[KnockoutNed]

Please stop with this BS. Wlad was 40-1 for the Sanders fight. You Klttards need to take your medication..

These guys are unbelievable.

If Brewster got stopped in round 4 , nobody would be saying Wlad was not in his prime.

He's only pre - prime for the simple reason he lost and they want to brush away those losses. Of course it doesn't work like that.

Wlad was in the pinnacle of his absolute prime when Sanders and Brewster destroyed him.

[just the facts]

Styles make fights and IMO holmes style is not particulary troublesome for Wlad (not to say homes isnt a great fighter, because he is).

prime for prime IMO, Wlad takes it. Not many can beat wlad and not KO him. I dont see holmes koing him. I would give better chance to quite a few fighters to beat prime wlad over holmes.

Bu!!spit, in his prime, Holmes had hand speed, foot speed and coordination that a prime Wlad wouldn't be able to deal with. Holmes took care of his business in the ring. Holmes landing hard jabs and rights all night while Wlad looks sluggish trying to hug him. Wlads slowwwwww jabs and rights seldom land and when they do, a prime Holmes chin easily handles them. Holmes by wide UD possibly late stoppage