The best way to build a star is by putting them through "the gauntlet", true or false

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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #11
    Originally posted by boxingsupreme87
    Ain't nobody beating Floyd but if the rumors are true and Bob matches Pac with Crawford, we could see a new star in the rising. That boy already has a nice resume
    Problem with crawford is that he doesn't have the "IT" factor... Like andre ward, he just doesn't have the star power

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      #12
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      Problem with crawford is that he doesn't have the "IT" factor... Like andre ward, he just doesn't have the star power
      With the right marketing it's possible. Crawford is more flamboyant than what he makes himself out to be. He's like Kevin Durant. For the sake of maintaining his positive, uplifting image he keeps it up but we've seen the real Durant slip up from time to time. These guys are from the streets and the streets are in them.

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        #13
        Originally posted by boxingsupreme87
        With the right marketing it's possible. Crawford is more flamboyant than what he makes himself out to be. He's like Kevin Durant. For the sake of maintaining his positive, uplifting image he keeps it up but we've seen the real Durant slip up from time to time. These guys are from the streets and the streets are in them.
        Pretty boy floyd did morph into money may


        Maybe bud crawford can morph into something

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        • Weebler I
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          #14
          I think the approach on the way up should be to consistently put fighters in against credible opposition that the fighter will look good against.

          Match them too tough, and they could get ruined.

          Originally posted by boxingsupreme87
          Canelo is not quite a full-blown star just yet, but he's at the edge and has a pretty solid resume for his age.
          I think he is, he could sell out a stadium at the age of 21/22. He's a star all right. He's not quite Pacquiao/Mayweather but very few boxers ever get to that point.

          I read a post a while back where they stated that Al Haymon is trying to build stars by doing the total opposite. By pitting his soon to be "stars" against exceptionally weak opposition with good opposition every once in a while to make them look even greater than they really are. He's doing this with Danny Garcia, Errol Spence, Thurman, Broner and a few other marketable fighters. But can he accomplish the task by doing so?
          Haymon doesn't put his fighters in with credible opposition, so no one believes in them. Gary Russell Jr. and Deontay Wilder are two good examples, no one took them seriously because Haymon wouldn't match them against anyone good.

          For intance, what if he put Danny Garcia up against Herrera, Peterson, Broner, and some other studs and hard hitters at 140 directly after the Matthysse fight where he was coming off the biggest win of his career? Would Danny be a star by now? Or at least close to one?
          Well he did put Garcia in with Herrera directly after the Matthysse fight, but Herrera wasn't a top 10 guy and was seen as an easy opponent for a Puerto Rican homecoming, it was your classic cherrypick gone wrong.

          They compounded this mistake by putting Garcia in with Salka further reducing Garcia's credibility. He's a quality fighter Garcia but his reputation took a major hit.

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            #15
            Completely FALSE IMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            The best way to build a star is for them to fight and perform well against an already established star. Sometimes losing to an established star still gives you more recognition than before and works out for you immensely. The stars of today were only made from the stars of yesterday. IMO Oscar De La Hoya was the greatest star making fighter to fight against in boxing history.

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            • jas
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              #16
              if they are good enough then yea

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              • MRCHOKEaMF
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                #17
                The elephant in the room, GGG fights bum after bum and it has worked for him.
                Floyd has faced more World Champions than anyone and it worked for him. Boxing fans are wishy-washy depending on how their fav is doing, so there is no "best" way. It depends on promotion. Look at how bob arum has worked the game with Pac. 3mos ago he was a noble, honorable, sportsman like, religious man, with relentless pressure, the truth eventually comes out. So there is no one way, there are various ways with the right promoter.

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                  #18
                  Depends, i.e. Fernando Vargas

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                    #19
                    Ideally yes but what if you're not as good as Floyd or Pac ?

                    Khan has fought stronger overall comp than most fighters going around but he's considered a bum because he has lost a couple of fights.


                    It's a fine line, you want to see guys fight the best eventually but I'm
                    Not sure the ufc model works great either, with champions having a 22-9 record etc.

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                    • Furn
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                      Ideally yes but what if you're not as good as Floyd or Pac ?

                      Khan has fought stronger overall comp than most fighters going around but he's considered a bum because he has lost a couple of fights.


                      It's a fine line, you want to see guys fight the best eventually but I'm
                      Not sure the ufc model works great either, with champions having a 22-9 record etc.

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