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**hitking** · 07-13-2015, 09:19 AM

For some reason, I had the urge to watch Jones-Ruiz this past weekend. And according to P@ct@rd scoring, I had Ruiz winning 5 rounds.

**DeadLikeMe** · 07-13-2015, 09:20 AM

Manny ducked Floyd for so many years only to get dominated anyway. Brother Naz keeping it real. Manny lost much respect of seemingly everyone in the industry with his performance and subsequent antics.

This is the lowest people's opinion of Pac has ever been. Casuals look at him as a loser inferior to Mayweather, professionals lost respect for him for his piss poor performance and all the salty cowardice displayed by Team Pac after the fight.

**whitelightning8** · 07-13-2015, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by PacmanP4PLegend View Post

Okay, although the vids you post "do" show some of the few good moments PAC had against floyd, that's not the whole fight my friend. Floyd won it, no debate about it. Manny just didn't put out the work necessary. Maidana came closest in his first fight against floyd, by applying constant non-stop pressure, manny needed to try and at least equal if not exceed that same level of output. PAC tried to think too much in there with floyd and that's not a good thing when you're manny pacquiao. When you're PAC you win by pure domination, overwhelming punishment. That's why marquez gave him trouble, cause he's smart (although marquez isn't as smart as floyd or physically gifted and that's why PAC was able to edge him out for the most part). But no amount of video posting or PAC highlights will change the truth...

As someone who thought both Maidana and Castillo beat Mayweather by a round, even I think you're wrong. I wanted Floyd to lose but he just didn't. I bet on Manny, I thought he'd just outwork him even if he didn't hit him cleanly. Judges wanted to give it to him but couldn't without horribly tainting their reputation.

**boksingero** · 07-13-2015, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post

Pacquiao was expected to be a tough fight for Mayweather but he wasn't. I have been saying Mayweather wins easy since 2008. Nothing surprised me except Floyd didn't try to beat him up worst. Not believing the shoulder excuse because when he was asked by Max Kellerman why he didn't throw as much, he said it was because of Mayweather's movement. Bob made him lie to save face. Manny is a fraud who built up his career as a dominate fighter by fighting come forward fighters. Floyd would have always beat him.

**boksingero** · 07-13-2015, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post

Manny ducked Floyd for so many years only to get dominated anyway. Brother Naz keeping it real. Manny lost much respect of seemingly everyone in the industry with his performance and subsequent antics.

This is the lowest people's opinion of Pac has ever been. Casuals look at him as a loser inferior to Mayweather, professionals lost respect for him for his piss poor performance and all the salty cowardice displayed by Team Pac after the fight.

**boksingero** · 07-13-2015, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by whitelightning8 View Post

As someone who thought both Maidana and Castillo beat Mayweather by a round, even I think you're wrong. I wanted Floyd to lose but he just didn't. I bet on Manny, I thought he'd just outwork him even if he didn't hit him cleanly. Judges wanted to give it to him but couldn't without horribly tainting their reputation.

**boksingero** · 07-13-2015, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post

Pacquiao has never looked good against an elite mover in his entire career. Bad arm or not, Mayweather's legs were always going to negate Manny's offense. Hell, it seemed like 90% of Roach's gameplan was built around the fact that he THOUGHT Mayweather couldn't move anymore.

Seriously, Manny couldn't catch the ghost of Shane Mosley after it jumped on its bike.

**boksingero** · 07-13-2015, 10:55 AM

**b00g13man** · 07-13-2015, 11:18 AM