Why not Brook vs Bradley? Who's #3!

[DoktorSleepless]

I never said Bradley was ducking Brook.

I never said you did. Bradley is apparently ducking this mystery fighter you have yet to name to fight this terrible unproven prospect.

I don't think he would have a mandatory due that soon, he isn't even the full champion yet. Frampton's mandatory was due because he was injured after the Martinez II fight.

Vacant titles come with an immediate mandatories. That's Sadam Ali.

http://www.boxingscene.com/sadam-ali-wants-one-fight-then-bradley-vargas-winner--92387

And mandatories don't matter if there's a unification fight like with Rigo.

Rios doesn't have a mandatory shot at another welterweight title. Brook did.

No, he doesn't. Rios has something better. A title fight with fellow stablemate Bradley anytime now without any sanction body eliminator/politics rubbish.

I don't know where you're getting that figure from for the Bradley fight. The point is that Brook had an IBF mandatory shot so why would he sign a voluntary with Bradley and TR options?

The figure was in a Dan Rafael article. A Bradley fight with options was still better than 25% of a ****ing Alexander fight at the time, and certainly better than $200k against Porter 3 years later.

How could they pursue Bradley if Bradley signed to fight Vargas? Bradley could have fought Rios but chose Vargas instead.

I was talking about now. They could easily be pursuing Bradley right fucking now. Sadam-Bradley is not a done deal. I'm not hearing shit out of Brook demanding a Bradley fight.

But Arum is obviously in communications with Hearn, so I doubt it hasn't come up. Either way, if neither fighter or promoter seems to be pursuing it immediately, acting like Bradley is cherry picking Sadam Ali is ******ed.

I never said Bradley was afraid of Rios. Rios is clearly a better opponent than Vargas though.

You obviously must think Bradley is afraid of Rios to some degree if you think fighting Vargas or Bradley is some huge sin. Seriously, who ****ing cares about Rios? Is it because Brook was about to face Rios and you need to hype him up? "Bradley ducked Rios for Vargas, but Brook was man enough to face him!"

[sicko]

Good Question! This is the first time I've heard anybody actually bring this fight up, this is a excellent fight!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I never said you did. Bradley is apparently ducking this mystery fighter you have yet to name to fight this terrible unproven prospect.

I didn't say he was ducking anyone or that Ali was terrible. I said he was an unproven prospect which is exactly what he is.

This is what happens when you post from an emotional standpoint.

Vacant titles come with an immediate mandatories. That's Sadam Ali.

http://www.boxingscene.com/sadam-ali-wants-one-fight-then-bradley-vargas-winner--92387

And mandatories don't matter if there's a unification fight like with Rigo.

I didn't think Bradley would have a mandatory so soon. Just seemed like some opportunism from TR to get another in-house fight in.

No, he doesn't. Rios has something better. A title fight with fellow stablemate Bradley anytime now without any sanction body eliminator/politics rubbish.

Well if he does, then he should go for it. I don't think he does though hearing the noises coming out of the Rios camp and the fact that you are saying Bradley has to fight Ali immediately.

Rios would still have to sign the same kind of deal with Bradley since he would be a voluntary challenger.

The figure was in a Dan Rafael article. A Bradley fight with options was still better than 25% of a ****ing Alexander fight at the time, and certainly better than $200k against Porter 3 years later.

It clearly wasn't. Brook didn't want to sign options with TR when he already had a mandatory route to the IBF and was then free to do what he wanted after winning the title.

I was talking about now. They could easily be pursuing Bradley right fucking now. Sadam-Bradley is not a done deal. I'm not hearing shit out of Brook demanding a Bradley fight.

They are in deep negotiations with Rios and Bradley isn't going to come to the UK in September because the money isn't there to bring him over and also considering he almost just got knocked out by Jessie Vargas

You obviously must think Bradley is afraid of Rios to some degree if you think fighting Vargas or Bradley is some huge sin. Seriously, who ****ing cares about Rios? Is it because Brook was about to face Rios and you need to hype him up? "Bradley ducked Rios for Vargas, but Brook was man enough to face him!"

Rios is a better opponent than Jessie Vargas. Are you denying this?

The only reason 9KO's Vargas is now being made out to be something is because he made Bradley do the Booty Dew. Before that, he was struggling to get past no names at 140lbs. Bradley is great at giving average fighters a name.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I suppose it was typical of Bradley to offer Brook a fight when he was an untested prospect doe

[DoktorSleepless]

I didn't say he was ducking anyone or that Ali was terrible. I said he was an unproven prospect which is exactly what he is.

This is what happens when you post from an emotional standpoint.

Bradley isn't fighting top fighters because he's busy fighting untested prospects instead of better available opponents? Cherrpicking/ducking is the exact implication of your post. Don't be coy about it.

I didn't think Bradley would have a mandatory so soon. Just seemed like some opportunism from TR to get another in-house fight in.

Sadam Ali is with Golden Boy.

Well if he does, then he should go for it. I don't think he does though hearing the noises coming out of the Rios camp and the fact that you are saying Bradley has to fight Ali immediately.

Obviously not next. Just like a title fight wasn't immediately next for Brook when he ducked Bradley.

Rios would still have to sign the same kind of deal with Bradley since he would be a voluntary challenger.

He would need to give options to his own promoter?

It clearly wasn't. Brook didn't want to sign options with TR when he already had a mandatory route to the IBF and was then free to do what he wanted after winning the title.

Clearly was. $500K + plus the recognition of beating Bradley > 25% of a fight with the loser of Bradley - Alexander "It Burns!" Alexander. But if fighting **** opponents is Brook's MO, what can I say?

They are in deep negotiations with Rios and Bradley isn't going to come to the UK in September because the money isn't there to bring him over and also considering he almost just got knocked out by Jessie Vargas

Why does it need to be in September? That's completely self imposed. If Brook rather fight **** opponents, what can I say again?

Like I said, with the lawsuit, the chances of a Top Rank with vs Haymon fights has gone from a speculative chance, to no chance. Do you agree? You did not acknowledge that point. And it seems Brook has a self imposed September date. Do you still have a problem with Bradley fighting Sadam Ali, a top 10 fighter, who is obviously the best available?

It's just funny seeing you denigrate Sadam Ali while constantly making excuses for Brook's **** opponents.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Bradley isn't fighting top fighters because he's busy fighting untested prospects instead of better available opponents? Cherrpicking/ducking is the exact implication of your post. Don't be coy about it.

No I actually applaud him if he can get paid 7 figure purses to fight the likes of Chaves, Vargas and Ali. He's been very fortunate.

Sadam Ali is with Golden Boy.

My mistake.

Obviously not next. Just like a title fight wasn't immediately next for Brook when he ducked Bradley.

It was in his sights. He had a clear route to the IBF title which he was already on.

Rios' contract expires at the end of the year and his camp are making noises about moving to Haymon. If he gets a better deal to fight Bradley then I won't have a problem with him not facing Brook.

He would need to give options to his own promoter?

See above.

Clearly was. $500K + plus the recognition of beating Bradley > 25% of a fight with the loser of Bradley - Alexander "It Burns!" Alexander. But if fighting **** opponents is Brook's MO, what can I say?

I've never seen this 500k figure before. Vargas only got 600k and he is a bigger name than Brook was in America at the time. But Brook's MO was not be to tied to options with Top Rank when he had a mandatory shot at the IBF with no options.

Why does it need to be in September? That's completely self imposed. If Brook rather fight **** opponents, what can I say again?

Why did Bradley need to fight a **** opponent in June and almost get himself knocked out?

It can be in December because Brook will most likely fight twice more before the year is out.

Like I said, with the lawsuit, the chances of a Top Rank with vs Haymon fights has gone from a speculative chance, to no chance. Do you agree? You did not acknowledge that point. And it seems Brook has a self imposed September date. Do you still have a problem with Bradley fighting Sadam Ali, a top 10 fighter, who is obviously the best available?

It's just funny seeing you denigrate Sadam Ali while constantly making excuses for Brook's **** opponents.

I didn't denigrate Sadam Ali - I said what he is. An untested prospect. Are you saying I'm wrong?

Just like Rios is a better opponent than Jessie Vargas - again, am I wrong?

Just the facts.

[Furn]

Brook wont take a hard fight until he gets the the Khan fight payday, Khan wont fight Brook until he gets Mayweather or Floyd retires and on it goes.....

Once Floyd and Pac depart we'll start seeing these fights.