If Andre Ward beats Kovalev and GGG

[MDPopescu]

... "If Andre Ward beats Kovalev and GGG"...

This is a big "if" -- because we still don't even know if Ward is going to fight them. Or if Ward plans to fight them in 2016 (or "down the line").

After Sad Chad, Ward wanted to fight Pavlik (but he undertook surgery instead), then he wanted Sartison (but HBO forced him against E-Rod); when coming back, this year, Ward fought Paul Smith.

Now you figure out by yourselves.

[Jubei]

Will he immediately be considered an All Time Great? GOAT status?

I say Ward and GGG meet at a catchweight of 165. I give Ward the extra pound because he would be sacrificing the most between the two.

He's the one losing weight, plus if GGG wins, he can campaign permanently at 168. In the reverse, if Ward wins, he wouldn't permanently or temporarily move down to 160.

Ward only faced some good competition because he was forced to face them in the Super 6, otherwise he keeps just talking big. In the HBO meeting he said he isnt ready to face GGG. What does it tell you? If he isnt ready for GGG he will never be ready to face the Krusher. Ward will keep fighting a couple more bums on irrelevant networks in front of his family.

[NEETzsche]

it would be an excellent achievement and would cement his hall of fame status, for sure. even now golovkin would be the toughest opponent ward has faced to date. but the fight would be even better if it came 6-12 months from now after golovkin has unified some of the titles at middleweight and perhaps partaken in a ppv bill - then we would have a real clash of kings on our hands

[Bushbaby]

Ill never say Ward beats Kovalev, until he does.

[mick1303]

I expect Ward to face GGG then Krusher and best both, GGG certainly Krusher too but I expect him to struggle with him. GGG at 168, GGG wouldnt have to drain himself to bully 160 pounders like usual. That said I dont expect GGG to move up until Ward vacates the division.

It is a straight out lie. GGG does not "drain himself". He is making the weight limit quite comfortably. In fact, he comes underweight (159-158) in the weigh-in lately..

[Butt stuff]

Ward-Kov/Stevenson would be great action packed fights. Ward-GGG would be pretty boring I think, Ward could probably spoil his work too easy and strong arm the guy.

But if he does them both you could certainly argue that he's the best fighter in the world.

[Bravado]

Hope ward faces them both. He'd abuse the hell out of GGG and would easily punish kovalev.

[Contra]

Hope ward faces them both. He'd abuse the hell out of GGG and would easily punish kovalev.

lolwut?

Ward wouldn't be able to do his usual clinch/headbutt routine without getting hammered. Kovalev is not a drained Dawson and would maintain distance and stifle Ward's offense.
Kov has the size, reach, and power advantage over Ward, and plenty of skill to use these advantages.

Kovalev makes Ward his bítch until the ref steps in and stops it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'd like to see both fights anyway.

[King_]

If Andre Ward beats Kovalev and GGG, yes... he IS the GOAT. Across all divisions.


Kovalev is going to retire as the LHW GOAT (because in reality he will retire undefeated and beat Ward if they fought) So even if he just moves up and beats Kovalev.... He's the GOAT.


Won't happen. Ward will duck him, and if he ever grows a pair and stops fighting British plumbers, he gets brutalized and his career is over.