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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostNo, because he showed medical records for his injury. It was a legit pull out.
The one I'm discussing was for April 2011 where Haye demanded Wlad couldn't fight.
He pulled out a day before the fight. Training camp is over. He wasn't in any position to injure himself.
I suppose its just a coincidence the very rare occasion he pulled out of a fight ,was the same fight his trainer said he wasn't happy about undertaking?
You're afraid of the backlash these Wladtards will put you under for making such a claim because its completely unbelievable that Wlad could have ducked Chisora.
Well its completely out of the realms of reality that he got destroyed by past prime Sanders as well but it happened.
The situation is more about Wlad not being as good as he's perceived rather than Chisora being somebody worthy of ducking.
Sam Peter had Wlad running for his life all over the ring. Lucky for Wlad Peter used blow his gas tank after 4 rounds , other wise Wlad would have been stopped.
Chisora never tanked it like Peter did. Look at the non stop pressure he put Vitali under for 12 whole rounds- Vitali nearly collapsing at he end.
If Vitali had that much trouble with Chisora , then Wlad is going to have even more trouble as his stamina is not nearly as good nor is his ability to control distance.
Just look at his recent fight against Jennings. Why could he not out-box that in-experienced ordinary man without constant clinching?
He was warned and warned and eventually got a point deducted. Why would such a supposed 'great champ' need to hold against a guy with very poor technique and pillows for fists?
Without his clinching that is used to hide his lack of skill- he is a very limited HW. The guy is a fraud and his camp knew he wan't good enough to take on Chisora- thats why it never happened.Last edited by Burt Saxby; 07-01-2015, 08:39 AM.
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Originally posted by Burt Saxby View PostDon't be an idiot. The man is a doctor. He can take medical reports out his ass.
First off, Klitschko is a PhD holder. He is not a medical doctor. Haha.
Second of all, I was covering that fight as a reporter. He did supply sufficient medical records that Frank Warren was accepting. That's what happened. I was literally there speaking to Warren about it.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
First off, Klitschko is a PhD holder. He is not a medical doctor. Haha.
Second of all, I was covering that fight as a reporter. He did supply sufficient medical records that Frank Warren was accepting. That's what happened. I was literally there speaking to Warren about it.
I guess Manny shoulder ingury was legit too yeah?
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Originally posted by Burt Saxby View PostWell Frank and Francis Warren have said differently on many occasions. What sort of a reporter are you if you think false medical reports can't be supplied to get out of fights. K2 , especially when it comes to Wlad , are one of the most corrupt outfits in boxing.
I guess Manny shoulder ingury was legit too yeah?
I didn't and don't have to read medical reports, the fact that they were supplied was enough.
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Originally posted by Burt Saxby View PostDon't be an idiot. The man is a doctor. He can take medical reports out his ass.
He pulled out a day before the fight. Training camp is over. He wasn't in any position to injure himself.
I suppose its just a coincidence the very rare occasion he pulled out of a fight ,was the same fight his trainer said he wasn't happy about undertaking?
You're afraid of the backlash these Wladtards will put you under for making such a claim because its completely unbelievable that Wlad could have ducked Chisora.
Well its completely out of the realms of reality that he got destroyed by past prime Sanders as well but it happened.
The situation is more about Wlad not being as good as he's perceived rather than Chisora being somebody worthy of ducking.
Sam Peter had Wlad running for his life all over the ring. Lucky for Wlad Peter used blow his gas tank after 4 rounds , other wise Wlad would have been stopped.
Chisora never tanked it like Peter did. Look at the non stop pressure he put Vitali under for 12 whole rounds- Vitali nearly collapsing at he end.
If Vitali had that much trouble with Chisora , then Wlad is going to have even more trouble as his stamina is not nearly as good nor is his ability to control distance.
Just look at his recent fight against Jennings. Why could he not out-box that in-experienced ordinary man without constant clinching?
He was warned and warned and eventually got a point deducted. Why would such a supposed 'great champ' need to hold against a guy with very poor technique and pillows for fists?
Without his clinching that is used to hide his lack of skill- he is a very limited HW. The guy is a fraud and his camp knew he wan't good enough to take on Chisora- thats why it never happened.
He destroyed Byrd twice and dispatched several contenders without clinching. The only fighter he would have lost to without clinching, in my opinion, is Povetkin.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostWell, Frank Warren is the boss, Francis is not.
I didn't and don't have to read medical reports, the fact that they were supplied was enough.
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Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust View PostWell, a "very limited" and a " fraud" beat David Haye without much of clinching.
He destroyed Byrd twice and dispatched several contenders without clinching. The only fighter he would have lost to without clinching, in my opinion, is Povetkin.
Haye going to his knees was a protest against the fouling. He looked silly at te time , but the Povetkin debacle has justified his behaviour.
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Originally posted by Scott-Weiland View PostThis is exactly what I have pointed out, you answered this yourself. Klitschko was scared of Chisora but Fury was not ? Klitschko in fact located Chisora as an opponent, where as Fury was participating in an ordered IBF elimination, their is a video on youtube of Fury proudly telling his fans from the comfort of his trailer he is gonna be participating in the IBF which will lead directly to Klitschko and of course guaranteed riches, yet we all know the rest, he ducked Pulev and ultimately Klitschko, not before b1tching about it when his proposed fight ceased to materialise, and hey what do you know ? before we know it Fury is shouting from the roofs of Big Ben Klitschko will never face him and he is certain the fight will never happen ! he's had multiple chances to seize that fight but has always put money before success, that in itself is a recipe for disaster, you only have to reference Haye's performance versus the champ and then begin to realise the regard in which he is held now, lol.
Yet you're calling one a duck and the other not a duck?
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