Comments Thread For: Haye: I'd Bet A lot of Money - Fury Won't Fight Klitschko

[LacedUp]

I'm saying why would Wlad sign initially if he was afraid as fans were claiming on here. Bunce coming out with statements like Steward told him Chisora was all wrong for Wlad, although these rumours didn't surface until Steward had passed. Brings us to why was Bunce blocked from the Klitschko Austria camp, go figure.

It's people like Fury fans and anti Klitschko fans that seize on statements like these, frankly it is pathetic. Their are other ways of marketing fighters your employers rank amongst their stable, Bunce is a real low life.

I was stating Wlad signed to fight Chisora as an optional defence as he was considered an undefeated prospect at that time. Little did I realise how one dimensional the guy was until having watched him on the world stage fight in one gear and struggle against semi retired Klitschko a year or so later after the proposed Wladimir fights.

I'm glad my posts humour you, as I've said countless times your own make me laugh. You call me a liar, show me one lie you can substantiate, please. Up until Fury defeating Chisora the second time around, Wlad's detractors were echoing the notion Chisora was being ducked by Wlad since their arranged fight, crazy I know and after having seen Fury deal with him without breaking sweat that notion has taken the autobahn, as it would be even more hilarious now than it side split-tingly funny before the Chisora fight last November.

One lie? You said I said Wlad was scared. Never said that ever. That's a complete false lie.

Regarding Manny Steward:

"When this fight was originally scheduled [for Dec. 11, before Klitschko injured an abdominal muscle in training], I said -- and I was probably the only one -- that I expected a tougher fight from Chisora than from any of the opponents we had fought in the last five years," Steward told ESPN.com on Tuesday. "I still feel the same way."

"I think Dereck Chisora has improved tremendously in the past year as a fighter," Steward said. "What I respect about him is his competitive spirit. This, to me, is what always makes a dangerous opponent: These guys with tremendous confidence, especially if they're young.

"Not wanting to belittle anyone, but the [Ruslan] Chagaevs, the Lamon Brewsters, the Sam Peters -- all these veteran-type guys -- they're very predictable, no real burning ambition. To me, the confidence, the ambition, the burning desire of a fighter is a lot more dangerous than that of an experienced fighter. I've always felt that Chisora was a tough fight, and I'm really not that super-excited about it.

"I personally would rather we had just fought David Haye."

http://espn.go.com/blog/boxing/post/_/id/584/emanuel-steward-wary-wladimir-klitschko-latest-foe-dereck-chisora-3

Stewad said multiple times that he felt Chisora was a hard fight. I don't think I've ever heard him say he was "worried" or used that word, but ^ he clearly said he expected Haye to be an easier fight.

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he doesn't have to beat Wlad, it could also be Wilder or Povetkin (when he gets a title). Haye will come back like the little shit stain he is and probably claim Fury is ducking.

Fury just needs to tell Haye to piss off and forget about it and fight Joshua for £5million when that fight is big enough and leave haye in oblivion where he belongs.

Team Fury have stated many times that they will never do business with Haye ever again. I don't blame them one bit, he's an utter scumbag.

[LacedUp]

"I think Dereck Chisora is a very tough fight. If it was up to me, I would not fight Dereck"

- Emanuel Steward

http://www.boxingscene.com/steward-chisora-very-dangerous-foe-klitschko--35401

[LacedUp]

Team Fury have stated many times that they will never do business with Haye ever again. I don't blame them one bit, he's an utter scumbag.

Thank God for that.

Haye got an injury. Fair enough that can happen. But his constant degrading of Fury is beyond pathetic. It really shows what a piece of scum he is.

[Burt Saxby]

I see Scott-Weiland is still giving ***** gifts to users who dare to disagree with his rubbish. Don't worry, he gave me one a while i ago after i pwned him in another Fury thread. He seems to have an unhealthy obsession with them, i imagine because he dreams of Wlad inserting one into him.

Ive never noticed him before. He's clearly lost in Wlad fangasam and most of those type of posters don't really follow the sport -they just follow Klitschko.

If Wlad fought somebody else when he ducked Del Boy , there might be a case for excuse , but he didn't. He shamefully walked away two days before it was due to go down.

This mope thinks thats the same / or worse than Fury fighting Haye instead of Pulev.
Fury/Pulev was just talks. Nothing was signed. The fight was only going to make him a few 100 grand.
He went with Haye who everybody said was a stylistic nightmare for him. So i don't know what sort of a duck is ducking a guy to fight a better guy.
And beating Haye would have commanded him a fight with Wlad far more than beating Pulev who wasn't very popular.
Plus, if Fury ducked Pulev to fight Haye, then Haye ducked Charr to fight Fury.
Unfortunately Wladtards are too dim to think that far ahead.

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Ive never noticed him before. He's clearly lost in Wlad fangasam and most of those type of posters don't really follow the sport -they just follow Klitschko.

If Wlad fought somebody else when he ducked Del Boy , there might be a case for excuse , but he didn't. He shamefully walked away two days before it was due to go down.

This mope thinks thats the same / or worse than Fury fighting Haye instead of Pulev.
Fury/Pulev was just talks. Nothing was signed. The fight was only going to make him a few 100 grand.
He went with Haye who everybody said was a stylistic nightmare for him. So i don't know what sort of a duck is ducking a guy to fight a better guy.
And beating Haye would have commanded him a fight with Wlad far more than beating Pulev who wasn't very popular.
Plus, if Fury ducked Pulev to fight Haye, then Haye ducked Charr to fight Fury.
Unfortunately Wladtards are too dim to think that far ahead.

Wlad fans seem to assume that anyone supporting Fury just wants Wlad to lose, rather than to see Fury win.

I respect Wlad, and i respect what he's achieved in the sport. I just happen to think that Fury is all wrong for him, and every reign eventually comes to an end.

Fury is the most underrated fighter in the sport, and will prove a lot of so called boxing fans wrong.

[yoz]

One lie? You said I said Wlad was scared. Never said that ever. That's a complete false lie.

Regarding Manny Steward:

"When this fight was originally scheduled [for Dec. 11, before Klitschko injured an abdominal muscle in training], I said -- and I was probably the only one -- that I expected a tougher fight from Chisora than from any of the opponents we had fought in the last five years," Steward told ESPN.com on Tuesday. "I still feel the same way."

"I think Dereck Chisora has improved tremendously in the past year as a fighter," Steward said. "What I respect about him is his competitive spirit. This, to me, is what always makes a dangerous opponent: These guys with tremendous confidence, especially if they're young.

"Not wanting to belittle anyone, but the [Ruslan] Chagaevs, the Lamon Brewsters, the Sam Peters -- all these veteran-type guys -- they're very predictable, no real burning ambition. To me, the confidence, the ambition, the burning desire of a fighter is a lot more dangerous than that of an experienced fighter. I've always felt that Chisora was a tough fight, and I'm really not that super-excited about it.

"I personally would rather we had just fought David Haye."

http://espn.go.com/blog/boxing/post/_/id/584/emanuel-steward-wary-wladimir-klitschko-latest-foe-dereck-chisora-3

Stewad said multiple times that he felt Chisora was a hard fight. I don't think I've ever heard him say he was "worried" or used that word, but ^ he clearly said he expected Haye to be an easier fight.

I remember this, but it's also worth pointing out that K2 and Haye were locked in negotiations for a 'unification' fight.

Let's not make out Wladimir ducked Chisora, please.

[Burt Saxby]

Let's not make out Wladimir ducked Chisora, please.

Thats exactly what happened. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Wlads brother who is a lot better at controlling distance wasn't able to keep Chisora at range. That fight and the Helenius fight proved Wlad would have had a nightmare with Chisora as his poor stamina would not have held up to the constant pressure and body attack.

[yoz]

Thats exactly what happened. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Wlads brother who is a lot better at controlling distance wasn't able to keep Chisora at range. That fight and the Helenius fight proved Wlad would have had a nightmare with Chisora as his poor stamina would not have held up to the constant pressure and body attack.

You realise Chisora wasn't a mandatory? Wladimir picked him...

http://metro.co.uk/2010/10/21/wladimir-klitschko-dereck-chisora-is-a-worthy-rival-for-me-not-david-haye-556177/

Wladimir went for the cash and belt - it's as simple as that.

[Easy Work.]

Haye is right, fury is in for a beating against wlad. But hes not right about fury ducking him because fury actually thinks he will beat klitschko and will fight him. The funny part is that fury will get schooled very easliy.