Comments Thread For: Haye: I'd Bet A lot of Money - Fury Won't Fight Klitschko

[Burt Saxby]

I only mentioned Chisora because you made the following comment, "In fact, a guy Wlad refused to fight twice, Fury smashed to bits and nearly retired him." Wlad vs Chisora was a joke fight and I for one couldn't believe that Wlad picked him as an opponent. Therefore I had absolutely no problem with a fight that should have never been signed not actually happening. Yet you want to make Chisora as if he was a serious opponent for Wlad. In my opinion that is as pathetic as it was laughable. Whats next are you going to claim that Wlad was somehow afraid to fight Chisora?

Go look up what Steward said about Chisora before calling that a joke fight. Wlad was advised to withdraw against Chisora which he did. It had nothing to do with making way for Haye as Haye was occupied with his Sky PPV show down with Audley.
Vitali and Helenius later learnt that Chisora was no laughing matter in fights which made it look very obvious why Wlad ducked him twice.

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Holding the Ustinov pull out against Fury exposes you as a mere casual fan who doesn't understand boxing.
Or the training , preparation , sparring and gameplans worked on before a fight. All of which Fury had absolutely NONE for Ustinov as the opponent he had been trained to box could not have been any more different.
Such a drastic change of opponent should never have been made on 2 days notice. No pro would ever make a change up like that on the last minute.
Understand that as he had zero sparring for such an opponent , his timing would be all off as well has having no strategy. I woouldn't expect a Wladtard to understand any of that , but there you have it.

Scott-Weiland, Ravens Fan and the like are just well known Fury haters. They don't watch his fights and are so blinded by their love for Wlad, that they'll attack anyone deemed a threat to him.

Anyone who believes Fury "ducked" a big stiff idiot like Ustinov doesn't know **** about boxing. Fury would've won every round, with ease.

[Fury4daWIN]

Dang, what was I thinking? I honestly forgot that Fury fans count fights that never happened as part of his legacy. I also may have wanted Chisora to beat Fury but I never thought much of him. And I even thought less of him after his non effort against Fury.

The point is that Fury had signed to fight him and would have his name on his resume by now (win or lose) if David hadn't pulled out. Accusing him of fighting no one (and I'd hardly call Chisora or Cunningham no one) does not take into account the year he spent sidelined for a big name fight that never took place. In other words, it's an unfair criticism to throw at Fury.

[LacedUp]

Holding the Ustinov pull out against Fury exposes you as a mere casual fan who doesn't understand boxing.
Or the training , preparation , sparring and gameplans worked on before a fight. All of which Fury had absolutely NONE for Ustinov as the opponent he had been trained to box could not have been any more different.
Such a drastic change of opponent should never have been made on 2 days notice. No pro would ever make a change up like that on the last minute.
Understand that as he had zero sparring for such an opponent , his timing would be all off as well has having no strategy. I woouldn't expect a Wladtard to understand any of that , but there you have it.

Fury would have fought Ustinov easy.

It was the illness to his uncle on the day before the fight that stopped it from happening. Something his uncle died from a few weeks later.

Scott Weiland doesn't understand the point of family. I'd like to see him say Wlad ducked someone like Ustinov if his family member fell deadly ill on the day of the fight and he dropped out.

[Fury4daWIN]

Scott-Weiland, Ravens Fan and the like are just well known Fury haters. They don't watch his fights and are so blinded by their love for Wlad, that they'll attack anyone deemed a threat to him.

Anyone who believes Fury "ducked" a big stiff idiot like Ustinov doesn't know **** about boxing. Fury would've won every round, with ease.

It's a pity that fight never took off, though perfectly understandable given the situation that emerged shortly afterwards (and which, to my shame, I didn't believe at the time). Still, Ustinov would not have been seen as a significant feather to Fury's cap, and given how one sided the fight would likely have been, would not have significantly raised his standing among those looking to criticise him. Plus, had that fight occurred and the Chisora fight failed to get renegotiated, there would have been a much stronger case for him having 'ducked' a fighter than is currently the case.

Whether through his mouth or through some people's instinctive dislike of him, Fury's in a position where, no matter who he fights outside of Wlad he's going to get criticised and his opponent marginalised. Beat Ustinov? He beat a giant punching bag. Beat Pulev? He beat a guy Wlad iced in five. Beat Wilder? He beat a chinny overprotected bum. People are already downgrading the second Chisora win, claiming they never thought much of Chisora to begin with or how he didn't try to win (as if fighters operate in a vacuum), yet that was in reality a first rate win and a first rate performance for Fury.

I'm a little disappointed that it seems to be mainly Wlad fans who are leading the charge here. They of all people should know how frustrating it is when your critics (in their case, classic fans) refuse to give you or your opponents any praise whatsoever, or operate from a position of "if you beat them then they can't have been any good in the first place." Fury's not the fighter Wlad was, but he's not a useless oaf either, and with his size and youthfulness could well cause this iteration of Wlad major problems when they eventually get in the ring. And if he doesn't then more power to the champ.

[Jewish-Reptile]

So Fury wasn't ready for Wlad but Chisora was? By the way how many fights did Chisora have when Wlad was supposed to fight him, somewhere around 12?

Chisora was undefeated when Wlad signed to fight him, largely the reason he was picked. Around that time he was showing promise, unfortunately given the circumstances that fight never happened which was a shame as we would not have had to listen to guys like Linda Love Lace harp on Wlad was afraid of him, and guys like Steve Bunce create lies like Steward told him Chisora was all wrong for him, even though the guy actually SIGNED to face Chisora.

Wlad has a record of wanting to face undefeated fighters with the unblemished records, can the same be said of Fury ? He has a track record of avoiding match ups against considered prospects at the time with guys like Price and Pulev when they were unbeaten, against Chisora he was so grossly out of shape the first time around it was one of the worst fights screened that year in a snooze fest just like the second fight.

I don't have a problem with Fury, he's clearly in the game for money over ring success, I'd just prefer if he didn't talk all the nonsense and fart noises that come from his mouth, if he just told it how it was I would respect him, he does not, so I don't ! If he wanted to face the best and was as good as he said he was he would have one of the finest records to date to match to his 24 fights, guys like Wlad and Price and Pulev both undefeated etc, Wilder clearly wants no part of him for one reason or another so he can't really be knocked on that. His record to date as it stands though is that of an over protected goof whom has had disastrous consequences in the one instance where he stepped up to world class.

His pursuit of Tomasz Adamek was cringeworthy when it was apparent Adamek was done at this level and consistently struggles against guys far superior in height and reach, a blatant cherry pick, but then this is the customary behaviour we have come to expect from his team.

It's all good though, we are finally getting what we want the match up Fury has claimed he has wanted for so long. I am as excited now in the build up to the purse bid as I am for the actual fight itself taking place, I've been looking forward to this one for quite some time and simply can not wait for the fight result and post match up interviews etc, it's gonna be hilarious.

[hugh grant]

Id prefered to have seen Haye v Fury, but was denied that twice. Cant believe after having waited so patiently for that, it was postponed.

But I cant see why Fury wouldn't fight Wlad? Fury wants to be a champ badly so why hed pull out I don't know about that one. Lets just hope the fight gets made.

Not sure Fury will win though, as hes not fought anyone of note recently, Chisora is no preparation for anyone.

[Fury4daWIN]

Chisora was undefeated when Wlad signed to fight him...

He was also undefeated when Fury beat him.

[LacedUp]

Chisora was undefeated when Wlad signed to fight him, largely the reason he was picked. Around that time he was showing promise, unfortunately given the circumstances that fight never happened which was a shame as we would not have had to listen to guys like Linda Love Lace harp on Wlad was afraid of him, and guys like Steve Bunce create lies like Steward told him Chisora was all wrong for him, even though the guy actually SIGNED to face Chisora.

Wlad has a record of wanting to face undefeated fighters with the unblemished records, can the same be said of Fury ? He has a track record of avoiding match ups against considered prospects at the time with guys like Price and Pulev when they were unbeaten, against Chisora he was so grossly out of shape the first time around it was one of the worst fights screened that year in a snooze fest just like the second fight.

When have I said that Wlad was afraid of Chisora? Why are you resorting to lies?

Fury has fought 4 undefeated fighters incl. Chisora who Wlad didn't fight in his 24 fight career.

In Wlad's first 24 fights he fought 1 undefeated guy. Not that it says much, but sometimes you got to think before you post.

Your post is comical. You claim Fury was ducking Pulev, but Wlad didn't duck Chisora because he signed and withdrew?

trainwreck.

[Jewish-Reptile]

When have I said that Wlad was afraid of Chisora? Why are you resorting to lies?

Fury has fought 4 undefeated fighters incl. Chisora who Wlad didn't fight in his 24 fight career.

In Wlad's first 24 fights he fought 1 undefeated guy. Not that it says much, but sometimes you got to think before you post.

Your post is comical. You claim Fury was ducking Pulev, but Wlad didn't duck Chisora because he signed and withdrew?

trainwreck.

I'm saying why would Wlad sign initially if he was afraid as fans were claiming on here. Bunce coming out with statements like Steward told him Chisora was all wrong for Wlad, although these rumours didn't surface until Steward had passed. Brings us to why was Bunce blocked from the Klitschko Austria camp, go figure.

It's people like Fury fans and anti Klitschko fans that seize on statements like these, frankly it is pathetic. Their are other ways of marketing fighters your employers rank amongst their stable, Bunce is a real low life.

I was stating Wlad signed to fight Chisora as an optional defence as he was considered an undefeated prospect at that time. Little did I realise how one dimensional the guy was until having watched him on the world stage fight in one gear and struggle against semi retired Klitschko a year or so later after the proposed Wladimir fights.

I'm glad my posts humour you, as I've said countless times your own make me laugh. You call me a liar, show me one lie you can substantiate, please. Up until Fury defeating Chisora the second time around, Wlad's detractors were echoing the notion Chisora was being ducked by Wlad since their arranged fight, crazy I know and after having seen Fury deal with him without breaking sweat that notion has taken the autobahn, as it would be even more hilarious now than it side split-tingly funny before the Chisora fight last November.