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Timothy Bradley is one of the Most Overrated and Lucky Fighters in Recent History

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  • Originally posted by FrankieClutch View Post
    No, Jesse Vargas is not elite level in boxing, I meant in general. Anyone fighting for titles are the elite athletes of this sport Same thing in the NBA or NFL. Just because someone doesn't start on their team doesn't mean they aren't an elite athlete in the world
    And Timothy Bradley is supposed to be elite level but he couldn't even separate himself fully from a D-level at best fighter without controversy.

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    • Originally posted by PorterIsFuture View Post
      So Khan & Bradley beat half of the people in the division each. Is one more dominant than the other? Don't see it.
      Thats what I'm saying, they never even fought...I don't even know what he's trying to say, Bradley owned the division with or without fighting Khan just like Floyd owned WW prior to fighting Pacquiao when it appeared he was ducking him.

      If he's not willing to admit Bradley wasn't one of (if not the best) 140lbrs then I don't even know what to say.

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      • Originally posted by PorterIsFuture View Post
        So Khan & Bradley beat half of the people in the division each. Is one more dominant than the other? Don't see it.
        Neither "dominated the division" because they didn't fight each other.

        Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
        I don't even know what you're trying to say? That he was a bum and didn't clean out the rest of the division? That he wasn't arguably the best 140lbr during his campaign?
        You just said he avoided Khan, who was his biggest challenge at 140, yet still "dominated the division".

        That literally makes no sense. When you dominate something, you leave no doubt, it's not "arguable".

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        • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
          Neither "dominated the division" because they didn't fight each other.



          You just said he avoided Khan, who was his biggest challenge at 140, yet still "dominated the division".

          That literally makes no sense. When you dominate something, you leave no doubt, it's not "arguable".
          Was he not one if the best 140lbrs?

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          • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Neither "dominated the division" because they didn't fight each other.



            You just said he avoided Khan, who was his biggest challenge at 140, yet still "dominated the division".

            That literally makes no sense. When you dominate something, you leave no doubt, it's not "arguable".
            Again, since him and Khan never fought. Was he not arguably the best 140lbr during his run? Yes or no.

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            • Originally posted by FeFist View Post
              Certain fights reveal a boxing fan's bias or puts their ******ity out there for the world to see.

              I agree that Timothy Bradley is overrated. That being said, clinging to him getting buckled by Vargas is moronic. We have seen him in the ring with bigger punchers in Marquez and Pacquiao. What that should tell you is that the placement of a punch is equally, if not, more important; it should also tell you that some fighters don't pack a hard punch because of their style, which can change when they decide to sit down on their punch.

              Bradley getting buckled was down to his poor defence, not an issue with his chin. For the entirety of the fight, Vargas was unable to hurt him but in the 12th round he sat down on his punch and caught him flush.

              Should also be a lesson to people thinking they could go 12 rounds with a pro because of their KO record. Against a lesser opponent, they wouldn't have a problem landing hurtful punches at will.
              +1.

              Bradley didn't get hurt by Pacquiao but now when a feather fisted Vargas hurts him with a good, shot "OMG HE HAS A BAD CHIN".

              Same goes with Pacquiao and Khan. Khan and Pacquiao have good chins but have lost 2 fights with KO's. Pacquiao actually got KO'D cold. Whereas, Khan was TKO'D.

              Boxing fans can be too emotional sometimes.

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              • Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
                Was he not one if the best 140lbrs?
                One of the best yes and Khan was one of best. They never settled who was the true best because Bradley refused to.

                How can you "dominate" a division when there's a dispute over who's the best. That would have been for the undisputed 140 title.

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                • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  That's another myth. What "hard way"? He beat a few B-level fighters at 140 and then ducked his biggest challenge at that weight to fight Casamayor before stumbling into and being gift wrapped a fight with Pacquiao cos Bob ran out of TR opponents.
                  He had 4 top 10 wins at 140, none really close. Nobody else came close, everybody else had issues/losses to unfavorable styles.

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                  • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    One of the best yes and Khan was one of best. They never settled who was the true best because Bradley refused to.

                    How can you "dominate" a division when there's a dispute over who's the best. That would have been for the undisputed 140 title.
                    Khan wasn't the only contender in that division. He beat Alexander, Peterson, Holt. All the other contenders fairly easily. Mostly in dominating fashion. If you want to get technical and say since he didn't fight Khan that he didn't dominate the rest of the division that's fine but don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about.

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                    • Over rated? Nobody even likes him outside of a handful of posters here...


                      Lucky? It's hard work, not luck.

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