Can Povetkin take Wilders right hand?

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  • BigAlexSand
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ellerbe Exposed
    Stiverne blocked everything Wilder had with his face for 12 rounds

    Paying journeymen to flop like a dolphin as soon as you touch them (Wilder) isn't quite the same as knocking out top opponents (Povetkin)
    Stiverne actually block most of Wilders punches, with a very high gaurd are rarely throwing punches. Same as when Pac fought Clottey. Yet, people went around bragging about how scared Clottey was but Wilder fought a bum. Right.........

    Wilder hurt Stiverne with a high gaurd throughout the whole fight and was hurting him with punches that were being blocked but some how a Povetkin is going to be open to shots and yet he won't get hurt. Right.......

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      #22
      Originally posted by Freedom.
      Unless Wilder's gloves are loaded, as some believe they were when he fought Lyakhovich and Scott, the iron-chinned Povetkin will take The Alabama Quacker's punches no problem.
      I don't like to cast aspersions on anyone but I've been seriously wondering about that. There was just something abnormal about the way Lyakhovich went down so easily; that and the seizure and it was like he'd been clubbed with blackjack. Fighters shouldn't react like that, not when they're just being hit with padded bone propelled by muscle.

      I really hope I'm just being paranoid as I like Wilder and want to see him as a good guy, but then this is professional boxing. It always pays to be cynical.

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        #23
        Originally posted by It's Ovah
        I don't like to cast aspersions on anyone but I've been seriously wondering about that. There was just something abnormal about the way Lyakhovich went down so easily; that and the seizure and it was like he'd been clubbed with blackjack. Fighters shouldn't react like that, not when they're just being hit with padded bone propelled by muscle.

        I really hope I'm just being paranoid as I like Wilder and want to see him as a good guy, but then this is professional boxing. It always pays to be cynical.
        Yeah but that's why the opposing trainer is in there during the wrap right?

        Can anyone take Wilder's right hand? Not sure that chin exists. He knocked down Stiverne in the second and then broke his hand in the fourth. Hard to say, Stiverne was eating massive rights in the 7th

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          #24
          Originally posted by KnockoutNed
          Wilder doesn't really throw combinations or rather doesn't have the skills to. He just has a basic jab and right cross aside from his windmilling comical punches.

          If he ever fights Povetkin guaranteed he throws almost exclusively jabs.
          Of course he would. Why wouldn't he when he outreaches Povetkin by 8-9" and has one of the best jabs in the division? Would you expect him to head into the tollbooth with short-armed Povetkin and give away his biggest advantage?

          It's called strategy people..

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            #25
            You can see Wilder's right hand coming. I'm not sure Povetkin would like Seth Mitchell (or Tye Fields) to connect with full force on his chin either...

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              #26
              Originally posted by Y0@NN
              You can see Wilder's right hand coming. I'm not sure Povetkin would like Seth Mitchell (or Tye Fields) to connect with full force on his chin either...
              Yeah, but you can see Huck's right hand coming as well and Povetkin was still caught by it multiple times. Wilder has the speed to make up for his deficiencies in technique.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BWC
                Yeah but that's why the opposing trainer is in there during the wrap right?

                Can anyone take Wilder's right hand? Not sure that chin exists. He knocked down Stiverne in the second and then broke his hand in the fourth. Hard to say, Stiverne was eating massive rights in the 7th
                Maybe Dominick Guinn or Sherman Williams. Can't think of anyone in the top ten who'd just walk through his right hand without visible effect. Stiverne certainly didn't.

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                • KnockoutNed
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BWC
                  Of course he would. Why wouldn't he when he outreaches Povetkin by 8-9" and has one of the best jabs in the division? Would you expect him to head into the tollbooth with short-armed Povetkin and give away his biggest advantage?

                  Wilder has one of the better jabs in the division by default because there aren't many guys around now who can throw a good jab. His jab has improved over time (he could barely throw a proper one just a few years ago) but its still uneducated and the timing is poor. It's not a jab that I see is going to be able to keep Povetkin under control.

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                  • KnockoutNed
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                    #29
                    It's called strategy people..
                    It's that and the need for self preservation. Wilder isn't going to go into one of his signature windmill frenzy against Povetkin because unlike the mediocrities he's been in with his entire career, Povetkin will catch him if he leaves himself exposed. Such a scenario most likely ends with Wilder on his back with a doctor waving a flashlight in his face.

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                      #30
                      That shouldn't even be his approach, you go into that fight with the gameplan to use your Size, Speed and Reach Advantage. You have a 83' Reach to his 75', it should be a struggle for Povetkin to land on that chin Clean if you know how to use your Size and Reach Advantage Correctly.

                      All Wilder has to do is listen to his Trainer Mark Breland. He was a fighter that knew how to use his size, a product of KRONK gym himself so everything Steward taught him he can pass it on to Wilder but he has to listen and be patient like he was in the Stiverne fight which was his best performance as a pro fighter so far.

                      I lean towards Povetkin in this match up right now of course but can Wilder beat him? With the right gameplan? ABSOLUTELY! BUT if he is sloppy like he was vs Molina, he gets knocked the *** out!

                      Once you're Champ you don't "Chase Knockouts" you just let it come organically. When you chase KO's you get very sloppy and you leave yourself opened to get knocked out yourself

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