Comments Thread For: Malignaggi Not Concerned Why He Got Garcia Fight

[Scott9945]

Exactly !

Anything less than the divisional limit becomes a catchweight fight.

And any other spin, is fanboy dribble to suit your agenda.



Correct, the welterweight limit is 147.

Pretty simple really, but I cant wait to see how you fcuk it up.....



No !

If you weigh 141-147 for a standard welterweight fight held at 147, then you are a welterweight who prepared for a welterweight fight..... if the maximum weight was LESS than 147, then you did not prepare for a welterweight fight, you prepared for a catchweight fight.

Your knowledge/understanding is lacking.

My boy Cotto did not just beat a middleweight, he beat a 157lb'er.

There is no such division as catchweight. You never hear the ring announcer say "this is a 12 round catchweight fight". That term only applies to the contracted weight for a title fight. Porter-Broner and Garcia-Peterson were welterweight fights fought at a contracted weight.

And I promise you, my knowledge/understanding is superior to yours.

[aboutfkntime]

Then why is he "middleweight champion"? he won the title at 159lbs.

It was a catchweight fight within the middleweight division (which ranges from anywhere above 154 to 160).

Scott is right I'm afraid.

He is not the middleweight champion, Golovkin is.

Cotto picked up some trinket by beating Martinez in a money fight.

There are currently plenty of world champions who are not the best fighter in the division they represent.

No big deal.

Its been that way for decades, ever since the championship became fragmented.

Dude, you cant be that gullible, surely ?

I certainly dont need a roadmap, or a signpost, to tell me who the best fighter is in a particular division.

And no, Scott is most definitely NOT right lol.

The welterweight limit IS 147, whether you like it or not.

To prepare for a welterweight fight, you must be able to weight up to, but not exceeding, 147.

Any non-standard " cap ", or contractual stipulation that restricts both competitors to a weight that is LESS than the standard divisional limit, renders the bout a catchweight fight.

Insinuating that Garcia had his first bout at welter when he weighed 141, and insisting that Canelo fought at middleweight when he weighed 155, is extremely naive and indicates no real understanding or feel for the game.

It is fkn dumb actually, agenda-driven rubbish.

I will briefly explain why, but I cant really be fcuked with this pointless childish subject.

Explain to me why you think Cotto insisted upon a catchweight of 157 ?

You know exactly why he did it.

If the catchweight makes a difference - and it obviously does - then how the fcuk can anyone with an ounce of common-sense insist that 141 is welter, or that 155 is MW?

Answer.... they simply cannot, but knock yourself out trying.

God knows why lol

[aboutfkntime]

There is no such division as catchweight. You never hear the ring announcer say "this is a 12 round catchweight fight". That term only applies to the contracted weight for a title fight. Porter-Broner and Garcia-Peterson were welterweight fights fought at a contracted weight.

And I promise you, my knowledge/understanding is superior to yours.

Your knowlege is a perception issue, but you do not have a good feel for the game. I would bet my life you have never made fought, or made weight.

Read this article, and then explain to me exactly why Cotto insisted upon a catchweight of 157 to fight Geale......

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...ome-with-cotto

You know why Cotto insisted on that catchweight Scott

Come on man.

That catchweight made a difference to Geale. It may not have affected the result, but it certainly made a difference..... so how can you keep a straight face while insisting that 141lb Garcia is a welter, or that 155lb Canelo is a MW LOL

Find me a trainer who thinks that 141 is welter LOL

Only a casual fan would regard 141 as welter.

Dude, IF Cotto agrees to fight Golovkin in a unification bout, at 155, what do you think of that ?

[Scott9945]

Your knowlege is a perception issue, but you do not have a good feel for the game. I would bet my life you have never made fought, or made weight.

Read this article, and then explain to me exactly why Cotto insisted upon a catchweight of 157 to fight Geale......

http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...ome-with-cotto

You know why Cotto insisted on that catchweight Scott

Come on man.

That catchweight made a difference to Geale. It may not have affected the result, but it certainly made a difference..... so how can you keep a straight face while insisting that 141lb Garcia is a welter, or that 155lb Canelo is a MW LOL

Find me a trainer who thinks that 141 is welter LOL

Only a casual fan would regard 141 as welter.

Dude, IF Cotto agrees to fight Golovkin in a unification bout, at 155, what do you think of that ?

I was referring to specific fights at 144. Not 141. For example, when Peterson fought Matthysse at 141, it was obviously to make it a non title fight as opposed to giving either fighter an advantage. But generally you are the division you are fighting in. Garcia-Peterson and Porter-Broner were welterweight fights.

By bringing up Geale you seem to be implying that I like catchweights and minimize its effects, when I generally hate them. And if GGG fights Cotto at 155 it will be a middleweight title fight fought at a catchweight. What else could you possibly call it?

[aboutfkntime]

So, 155 is middleweight, not 160 as I have believed for..... oh I dont know, forever lol.....

..... so, if Cotto challenges Golovkin to fight at 155 (which is middleweight, according to todays young bunch of fight fans)..... then Golovkin can shut-up, and Golovkin can man up, because he will have no excuse whatsoever according to the wobbly standards of today..... right ?

GTFO, all of you guys who insist that 155 IS middleweight would do nothing but cry and make excuses.

Middleweight is 160, because 160 is the official divisional limit.

Anything above 154, and less than 160, is obviously a catchweight fight within the middleweight range.

OBVIOUSLY ! lol

[aboutfkntime]

I was referring to specific fights at 144. Not 141. For example, when Peterson fought Matthysse at 141, it was obviously to make it a non title fight as opposed to giving either fighter an advantage. But generally you are the division you are fighting in. Garcia-Peterson and Porter-Broner were welterweight fights.

By bringing up Geale you seem to be implying that I like catchweights and minimize its effects, when I generally hate them. And if GGG fights Cotto at 155 it will be a middleweight title fight fought at a catchweight. What else could you possibly call it?

Scott, you said this.....

" Just to spell it out for you, 141-147 is considered welterweight "

Stop flip-flopping !

It is absurd, and naive (definitely NOT knowledgable lol) to insist that 141 is welter.

Welter is 147, period !

A fight contracted for 141 - or anything less than 147 - is a catchweight fight within the welterweight range, but a catchweight fight nonetheless.

An official welterweight fight, will take place with the official welterweight limit.

Come on man !

[snoopy360]

Screw it, at this point in Swift's career this is a stylistic nightmare. He already lost to a soft touch and looked horrible vs Peterson. If he takes a loss from Paulie then dude is definitely headed in to obscurity. At the very least if he losses we wont' have to listen to his ignorant, loud mouth father any more.

[From Russia]

cuz you are shot and feather fisted guido

[Boxing Goat]

No because paulie M poses no threat and is another soft touch for the overrated Garcia.

BINGO!

Meaningless, garbage fight.

Cash grab for Haymon fighters that I would not pay a cent to watch if it wasn't completely free.

[lefthook2daliva]

this is wrong on so many levels it aint even funny.

Hope Malignaggi knocks Garcia out.