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  • AddiX
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    #81
    Originally posted by BWC
    Here man read this instead of wasting your time here haha:
    http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/J...epth/Main.aspx
    I've already read it, what are you trying to show me here?

    You think these investors who are giving him millions of dollars don't have an out clause?

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    • BWC
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      #82
      Originally posted by AddiX
      I've already read it, what are you trying to show me here?

      You think these investors who are giving him millions of dollars don't have an out clause?
      Oh gee. I've worked for one of these funds guy. It's a fund that raises institutional money. They signed term sheet. They're in..

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      • Barcham
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        #83
        Originally posted by BWC
        Geez people don't know s*** about the TV business around here. Actually they care very much whether it's Fresh Prince of Bel Air or sports programming. Because people actually watch sports in real time while people DVR those ****** shows and fast forward through the commercials. That's why regional baseball telecasts are getting $1.5 billion TV deals.

        If you're really this ignorant of TV programming, please stop posting I these threads..
        Guess you know nothing about TV ratings or programming yourself. People do DVR sports telecasts, quite often as a matter of fact and sports or nonsports programming still has to pull in good numbers to make advertising dollars. Advertising on a sports program is based on the numbers and the demographic, just like any other show.

        Boxing can never compete with major league sports for reasons already discussed dozens of time in dozens of threads. I suggest reading them.

        Originally posted by bigdunny1
        The XFL comparison is valid because you had smart deep pocket investors. They had a 2 year plan just like PBC. But the product was too expensive and when tv advertiser's did not jump on board like they expected they were suffering multimillion dollar loses which is what is going on with PBC. The difference is XFL debuted to amazing tv ratings then dropped each week. PBC debuted to mediocre ratings and have dropped each event since. XFL also had strong attendance they packed up the joint just couldn't get casual fans to watch. PBC struggling to full seats and get people to watch.
        I wholeheartedly agree with the XFL comparison. I made it myself when PBC first started.

        Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
        I dont know why it continues to surprise me how idiotic, bias, and agenda laden the majority of these posters are. 2.4 million as currently reported may seem low compared to 4 million, but 2.4 is a very good number that Hbo and Showtime will never hit unless airing a replay of a certain super fight. Not to mention the return of Ward was on BET, Lemeiux vs N'dam on Fox sports, and Kimbo Slice vs Ken Shamrock on spike were all airing simultaneously and/or crossed over. Plus other world sporting events as well as a major movie weekend for Pixar with the release of Inside Out. Yeah but lets go with the idiots who think 2.4 million is a low number.
        The Kimbo-Shamrock fight was on FRIDAY NIGHT. Not Saturday. And you are really not trying to claim that a Pixar animated movie release is competition for the same market as boxing are you? 2.4 million was a small number and yet another decline from previous shows. This is not good for PBC.

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          #84
          Originally posted by BWC
          This is a silly argument. They're both professional football. It's like saying the CFL doesn't compete with the NFL at all..
          It's like saying Dominican league baseball or what we call Winter League play competes with MLB. No it doesn't it's during the off season and filled with young players and guys trying to get back into the majors.

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            #85
            Originally posted by BWC
            Oh gee. I've worked for one of these funds guy. It's a fund that raises institutional money. They signed term sheet. They're in..
            No need to lie.

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              #86
              Originally posted by BrushMyHair
              It's true.

              Broner is also a bigger draw than Khan.
              steady on.......

              Khan is worth over 40 mil


              Khan cud by Broners life 100 times over...

              and Khan delivered high ratings for Spike,

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                #87
                Originally posted by Barcham
                Guess you know nothing about TV ratings or programming yourself. People do DVR sports telecasts, quite often as a matter of fact and sports or nonsports programming still has to pull in good numbers to make advertising dollars. Advertising on a sports program is based on the numbers and the demographic, just like any other show.

                Boxing can never compete with major league sports for reasons already discussed dozens of time in dozens of threads. I suggest reading them.



                I wholeheartedly agree with the XFL comparison. I made it myself when PBC first started.



                The Kimbo-Shamrock fight was on FRIDAY NIGHT. Not Saturday. And you are really not trying to claim that a Pixar animated movie release is competition for the same market as boxing are you? 2.4 million was a small number and yet another decline from previous shows. This is not good for PBC.
                Aren't the guy who claims the PBC is "hurting" boxing. Yeah putting it on network TV is just going to murder the sport. I've never heard anything so ****** in my life. What do you care man it's not your money..

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by BWC
                  They have already $450mm in the bank. They'll be fine relax..
                  HAD $450 million. They have spent around $150 million of that by now.

                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  I knew someone would come in comparing this to HBO to try and spin this as a success lol. HBO is premium cable where they charge their viewers monthly. Its subscriotion based totally different model then network tv where you are paid by advertisers which PBC has little to none. Which is why they need higher ratings to lure them. NBC is not paying a dime PBC pays for the fighters and pays NBC for the time slot. Game of throne gets a fraction of the TV ratings as network tv shows yet because it's subscription based it generates way more money and is one of the biggest shows out right now. Of course if HBO got these ratings it would be a success but for network prime time and all the money PBC is losing these are terrible ratings.
                  Actually Game of Thrones is a poor example. They pull numbers that would be respectable for most top network mid week prime time shows and they do it on Sunday evening. They are regularly over 6 million viewers for that show.

                  Originally posted by BWC
                  Nah. With even current numbers they'll walk away with a huge TV deal. Sports valuations are skyrocketing..
                  PBC will never get a huge network deal without advertising. Networks do not throw their money away like investors do because it is other people's money.

                  Originally posted by BWC
                  Please also understand how hedge funds work. They're contractuAlly obligated for this money..
                  To paraphrase a Game of Thrones character... "You know nothing, BWC."

                  Originally posted by BWC
                  This is a silly argument. They're both professional football. It's like saying the CFL doesn't compete with the NFL at all..
                  The CFL does not compete with the NFL at all. I am a CFL fan and have season tickets to the Als but I have no interest in the NFL at all. Most NFL fans I know have no interest in the CFL. Both games are very different.

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                  • Barcham
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by BWC
                    Aren't the guy who claims the PBC is "hurting" boxing. Yeah putting it on network TV is just going to murder the sport. I've never heard anything so ****** in my life. What do you care man it's not your money..
                    YDKSAB. Paying fighters over inflated purses will hurt the sport when trying to make decent matches. When you have fighters like Broner expecting $1.5 million and up for his next fight, you are going to have problems. Sure PBC is willing to pay this because Haymon gets his cut and sings on his way to the bank, but when PBC is gone, fighters will get a very rude awakening when they go back to making 50k instead of 1 million.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by BWC
                      Oh gee. I've worked for one of these funds guy. It's a fund that raises institutional money. They signed term sheet. They're in..
                      Anyone who has worked in that domain would not be saying "I've worked for one of those funds guys." Washing his car does not count.

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