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Pbc on cbs. Barthelemy v Demarco. Vasquez v Omotoso

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  • Originally posted by ea22 View Post
    Like I said DeMarco is not blameless, but when you have a guy dead to rights (seriously DeMarco wasn't doing **** and more importantly couldn't do ****) you have to push for the knockout, at that point you have an obligation to the crowd who paid to see a fight. I have seen Barthelemy do this now 3 times in a row now, and I the only thing that I can say is that I won't be watching his fights anymore. Then these guys complain about how nobody likes them and some even cry racism... well whatever to each his own I guess but I like to see fighters fight. Very good fight between Vasquez and Omotoso though, made PBC worth watching this evening.
    You would think these guys would see what happened to rigondeux. Maybe the best technical fighter in the world, and promoters don't even want him.

    At the end of the day, boxing is still a fight, and when I don't feel like I'm watching a fight anymore, it's boring, no matter how good they are.

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    • Originally posted by ea22 View Post
      Like I said DeMarco is not blameless, but when you have a guy dead to rights (seriously DeMarco wasn't doing **** and more importantly couldn't do ****) you have to push for the knockout, at that point you have an obligation to the crowd who paid to see a fight. I have seen Barthelemy do this now 3 times in a row now, and I the only thing that I can say is that I won't be watching his fights anymore. Then these guys complain about how nobody likes them and some even cry racism... well whatever to each his own I guess but I like to see fighters fight. Very good fight between Vasquez and Omotoso though, made PBC worth watching this evening.
      Maybe he just couldn't knock him out. Its not like he wasn't drilling thr guy repeatedly. He was trying just couldn't finish him off.

      Not sure what people are complaining about here, he was offensive, wasn't dancing and running away.

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      • Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
        Maybe he just couldn't knock him out. Its not like he wasn't drilling thr guy repeatedly. He was trying just couldn't finish him off.

        Not sure what people are complaining about here, he was offensive, wasn't dancing and running away.
        Sometimes guys just aren't going to be stopped, if a guy takes a beating and survives I have never found that a big deal. Boxing fans are fickle as hell though, and extra fickle when it comes to PBC for whatever reason.

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        • Not this again. People still crying about no KO. World class fighters can survive if they set their mind to it.

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          • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
            Sometimes guys just aren't going to be stopped, if a guy takes a beating and survives I have never found that a big deal. Boxing fans are fickle as hell though, and extra fickle when it comes to PBC for whatever reason.
            two extra fickle if is a Cuban fighter involved, a guy just compared Rances to his good friend Lara, what a moron, I wonder what he have to say about porter-broner...

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            • Originally posted by BendOver View Post
              then don't watch, you are a moron or dksab, the first thing you learn in a boxing ring is how to throw a punch and how to not get hit, the domination of demarco was complete, the only guy to blame here is demarco and his corner, no Rances who made the fight, you guys want a ko all the f#@%ng time and you know what? It doesn't happens all the time, demarco got hit with every shot and wasn't hurt...
              No I just have watched way too much quality boxing(a lot of old fights too) to pretend to be entertained when I am not. Do you know what monotony is? I watched Barthelemy do the same round after round after round, and I simply got bored, he never turned it up, I understood what he was doing and yes he is very skilled but I can watch sparring if I just want to see how skilled a guy is, I and the general public pay to see fights. And don't try to make a straw man argument against me, there are tons of good fights that don't end in KO's, Vasquez vs Omotoso didn't end in a KO and it was still entertaining, a fight doesn't have to end in a KO to be entertaining(Vlad's fights for example are pretty boring before the KO). I am sorry but I have no interest in being a pretentious boxing hipster, I sparring experience and I can see what's going on in the ring more than most people but I just call them like I see them and that fight wasn't very entertaining to me. If you enjoyed it good for you I guess.

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              • Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
                Maybe he just couldn't knock him out. Its not like he wasn't drilling thr guy repeatedly. He was trying just couldn't finish him off.

                Not sure what people are complaining about here, he was offensive, wasn't dancing and running away.
                He definitely could have increased his workrate, especially considering DeMarco posed no threat after a few rounds. Like I told the other guy, if you enjoyed it that's cool, but he didn't press the action enough if you ask me especially considering that DeMarco was there for the taking(I mean he look ****ing terrible).

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                • Originally posted by ramplamp View Post
                  You know this is PBC, right? Haymon ain't putting Figueroa in a fight that he'd likely lose.
                  Why not. He'll lose eventually. That's a silly statement

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                  • Originally posted by ea22 View Post
                    No I just have watched way too much quality boxing(a lot of old fights too) to pretend to be entertained when I am not. Do you know what monotony is? I watched Barthelemy do the same round after round after round, and I simply got bored, he never turned it up, I understood what he was doing and yes he is very skilled but I can watch sparring if I just want to see how skilled a guy is, I and the general public pay to see fights. And don't try to make a straw man argument against me, there are tons of good fights that don't end in KO's, Vasquez vs Omotoso didn't end in a KO and it was still entertaining, a fight doesn't have to end in a KO to be entertaining(Vlad's fights for example are pretty boring before the KO). I am sorry but I have no interest in being a pretentious boxing hipster, I sparring experience and I can see what's going on in the ring more than most people but I just call them like I see them and that fight wasn't very entertaining to me. If you enjoyed it good for you I guess.
                    I understand you point but you are blaming the wrong guy, Barthelemy did all he could do to make the fight and couldn't ko demarco, maybe he could jus bring a hammer in and nail the other poor guy, like wwe match, you sound like a kid playing too much xbox...

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                    • Originally posted by ea22 View Post
                      He definitely could have increased his workrate, especially considering DeMarco posed no threat after a few rounds. Like I told the other guy, if you enjoyed it that's cool, but he didn't press the action enough if you ask me especially considering that DeMarco was there for the taking(I mean he look ****ing terrible)
                      Maybe he look terrible because the gap in talent but I didn't see him badly hurt were you can say that Barthelemy left him off the hook, the one time he went down look to me that he took a knee...

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