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  • HEND
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    #21
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    How about get a title shot with Klitchko ?
    So by this logic, Alex Leapai and Pianeta are also top 5 I guess.
    Leapai's best win is arguably better than Fury's best lmao...
    Fury fooled many people, you will see.
    The guy literally just markets himself with trash talking and intentionally only pick fighters who are two size smaller than him and they just hardly reach his head even with an overhand right. His best wins are Chisora and Cunningham for crying out loud!
    Cunningham who is a career cruiser weight and even there wasn't a big puncher but still managed to floor Fury.

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    • BluesMan
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      #22
      Currently....

      Wilder
      Fury
      Povetkin
      Vacant
      Vacant

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      • Tom Cruise
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        #23
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        Wilder hasnt even fought Wlad ,Wach would end W ilders win streak for reasons that would go over your head ,the obvious one is WACH ALREADY EXPERIANCED WLAD ,if they fought today there is nothing Wilder could to keep Wach off him ,did you not see Wilders last fight,he was hurt a few times by a guy who is not on a Wach level,the reach will be taking away and Wachs chin wouldn't budge ,it would be a disaster match for Wilder ,yet you laugh at Wach a natural fighter unlike robot Wilder?
        Wach has no good wins. His next fight is vs a guy Joshua KO'd in 3 rounds in his 8th fight. Wlad completely stomped him from start to finish, only his chin let him reach the final bell.

        Wilder has at least beaten Stiverne.

        Jennings did better vs Wlad and has wins over PErez and Spilka which are at least decent, yet you dont have him in your top 5?

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          #24
          Originally posted by HEND
          So by this logic, Alex Leapai and Pianeta are also top 5 I guess.
          Leapai's best win is arguably better than Fury's best lmao...
          Fury fooled many people, you will see.
          The guy literally just markets himself with trash talking and intentionally only pick fighters who are two size smaller than him and they just hardly reach his head even with an overhand right. His best wins are Chisora and Cunningham for crying out loud!
          Cunningham who is a career cruiser weight and even there wasn't a big puncher but still managed to floor Fury.
          Alex lepai and pianeta are not on Wachs skill level ,they do not punch like him with technique and do not have his defense or reach...they are not a threat to Wlad as much as Wach,where do you see that?Wach had Wlad stunned because he had reach and a chin as well.....

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            #25
            Originally posted by Tom Cruise
            Wach has no good wins. His next fight is vs a guy Joshua KO'd in 3 rounds in his 8th fight. Wlad completely stomped him from start to finish, only his chin let him reach the final bell.

            Wilder has at least beaten Stiverne.

            Jennings did better vs Wlad and has wins over PErez and Spilka which are at least decent, yet you dont have him in your top 5?
            That guy was the first to take Joshua 3......you can say what you will ,vid footage tells another story on who is more legit as a real fighter...not only is fury size for size very weak puncher he has a questionable chin,its a no brainer who is more equipped to fight Wlad.Stiverne is a short unrefined swarmer ,any tall good boxer like Wilder would easily out box,you are not really looking at each capabilities you are looking at records.We will see ,I will be sure to repost this match up as I know Wach will be fighting some of those names I mentioned.A chin these days goes a long way,with good boxing,i would take that over weak punching and footwork.Wlads boxing is levels above anyone,so his chin may not be as strong as some here,but he is that good at actual boxing,until someone makes Wach like Wlad did ,look like a beginner,im taking Wach to have the better career win over Fury,and maybe fury himself if they ever meet.
            Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-19-2015, 10:18 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by HEND
              So by this logic, Alex Leapai and Pianeta are also top 5 I guess.
              Leapai's best win is arguably better than Fury's best lmao...
              Fury fooled many people, you will see.
              The guy literally just markets himself with trash talking and intentionally only pick fighters who are two size smaller than him and they just hardly reach his head even with an overhand right. His best wins are Chisora and Cunningham for crying out loud!
              Cunningham who is a career cruiser weight and even there wasn't a big puncher but still managed to floor Fury.
              Chisora was on the best streak of his career before he faced off against Fury, and Cunningham is a very good heavyweight, he's had some excellent wins since the Fury fight and was robbed blind against Glazkov, another very highly ranked HW.

              How many fighters are Fury's size? There's not many out there, and whilst i agree that it would've been nice to see him against a giant (partly to help prepare for Wlad, and partly to shut his haters up) those two wins alone make his resume superior to the likes of Wilder, Stiverne, Wach etc.

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              • Tom Cruise
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                #27
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                That guy was the first to take Joshua 3......you can say what you will ,vid footage tells another story on who is more legit as a real fighter...not only is fury size for size very weak puncher he has a questionable chin,its a no brainer who is more equipped to fight Wlad.Stiverne is a short unrefined swarmer ,any tall good boxer like Wilder would easily out box,you are not really looking at each capabilities you are looking at records.We will see ,I will be sure to repost this match up as I know Wach will be fighting some of those names I mentioned.A chin these days goes a long way,with good boxing,i would take that over weak punching and footwork.Wlads boxing is levels above anyone,so his chin may not be as strong as some here,but he is that good at actual boxing,until someone makes Wach like Wlad did ,look like a beginner,im taking Wach to have the better career win over Fury,and maybe fury himself if they ever meet.
                If Fury or Wilder lose to Wach then its safe to say they have been badly exposed.

                I've watched Wach fight, he isnt good at boxing. He can barely move or even defend himself, hes a walking heavy bag who somehow ended up fighting (and getting horrifically beaten by) Wlad. He doesnt have a single impressive name on his resume aside from Wlad who beat him easily.

                He's also 35 years old and 10 years into his pro career, he isn't getting any better.

                Wach has a better chance at making it as a male model than he does making it into the top 5 at HW.



                and thats saying something.

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                • HEND
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  Alex lepai and pianeta are not on Wachs skill level ,they do not punch like him with technique and do not have his defense or reach...they are not a threat to Wlad as much as Wach,where do you see that?Wach had Wlad stunned because he had reach and a chin as well.....
                  Man, who talked about Wach?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by HEND
                    I want to state that this not based on their resumes now but on my opinion.
                    Not in order:

                    Povetkin
                    Wilder
                    Joshua
                    Pulev
                    Parker
                    Stiverne

                    It's 6 but whatever...
                    Hilarious because Fury beats them all.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      That guy was the first to take Joshua 3......you can say what you will ,vid footage tells another story on who is more legit as a real fighter...not only is fury size for size very weak puncher he has a questionable chin,its a no brainer who is more equipped to fight Wlad.Stiverne is a short unrefined swarmer ,any tall good boxer like Wilder would easily out box,you are not really looking at each capabilities you are looking at records.We will see ,I will be sure to repost this match up as I know Wach will be fighting some of those names I mentioned.A chin these days goes a long way,with good boxing,i would take that over weak punching and footwork.Wlads boxing is levels above anyone,so his chin may not be as strong as some here,but he is that good at actual boxing,until someone makes Wach like Wlad did ,look like a beginner,im taking Wach to have the better career win over Fury,and maybe fury himself if they ever meet.
                      Fury's weak yet has stopped 75% of his opponants lol. He doesn't possess the 1 punch KO power of a Wilder or a Joshua but he hits hard enough.

                      Fury also possess's some of the best footwork in the division, and the best engine. I implore people to read this recent analysis. http://bit.ly/1G5470M

                      Wach has zero good wins, and until he manages to beat a live opponent, nobody will rate him

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