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[The Hammer]

Uh, Kessler and Dawson (who, at the time, were more highly regarded than anyone Canelo or Golovkin have EVER beaten).

But he defeated Mikkel Kessler by head butts and other illegal tactics (he had a home referee Jack Reiss who allowed him to foul as much as he wanted). Ward should have lost by DQ for those deliberate head butts, which injured Kessler's eye (Mikkel couldn't see out of one of his eyes after round 3, if I remember correctly).

And Chad Dawson was severely weight-drained. Chad should never have agreed to fight Ward at 168.

If Ward would have beat Kessler fairly with an honest referee who prevented him from repeatedly using illegal tactics, and if he would have fought Dawson at 175, those would have been more meaningful wins.

[Slyboots]

I know it's a bit early to say this as he's a rising prospect, but I think Felix Verdejo is getting a bit overrated.

The guy has skills for sure, but he's being touted as the next big thing from PR and a future champ. He could be a future champ, but from what I'm seeing right now, this guy has NOTHING on the likes of Trinidad and Cotto as far as being next great fighter from PR.

Still a good fighter, though.

[nivek535]

Rigondeaux.

Lots of talent but also lots of flaws. People act like he's one on the talent level of somebody like Mayweather when really he's been slapped around the ring by C or D level fighters.

I do think he has some great talents but also a knockout waiting to happen.

i agree that he is overrated, but he is definitely up there in the A level, just not as godly as people portray him as.

Khan, I don't think Khan can even be classified as a good fighter at this point, so it's alarming that some would flirt with the idea of Khan fighting the best boxer in the world.

Lara, people think he has a high ring IQ but he doesn't even variate his attack and he's too much of a head hunter.

especially after his fight with algieri, definitely not up there.
too 1 dimensional, no variation, no power, no defense (his chin is debatable). heart and speed isnt enough to live up to what people are saying of him.

Andre Ward is overrated as hell, why because he the only one who really beat carl froch.

Take away carl froch W from his resume, what do we have?

agree. the tournament gave him a much bigger name than he deserves.

[STAX ON DECK]

gumblebumlovkin; has not 1 elite win,is super easy to hit,has a ****** borat face,cant speak a lick of english,and cant draw flies to shyt yet he demands to fight big names like floyd mayweather,now u tell me that aint a overranted hype bum

even bob arum called him a gumblebum fighter whatever the hell that means,

[Redd Foxx]

But he defeated Mikkel Kessler by head butts and other illegal tactics (he had a home referee Jack Reiss who allowed him to foul as much as he wanted). Ward should have lost by DQ for those deliberate head butts, which injured Kessler's eye (Mikkel couldn't see out of one of his eyes after round 3, if I remember correctly).

And Chad Dawson was severely weight-drained. Chad should never have agreed to fight Ward at 168.

If Ward would have beat Kessler fairly with an honest referee who prevented him from repeatedly using illegal tactics, and if he would have fought Dawson at 175, those would have been more meaningful wins.

I was actually watching that fight critically, earlier today and Ward beat Kessler through sheer talent. Not one of the headbuts was aimed. He works in like Holyfield and butts happen. I wish he did more to avoid them. It's not purposeful like Hopkins and some truly dirty fighters. Kessler himself admitted that he didn't know how to fight in the clinch and wasn't ready for it. Half the time, he grabbed Andre's arm whereas Ward was setting up brilliant ways to work out of the clinch. On a technical level, Ward really schooled him. And I like Kessler. I was rooting for him when that fight went down but was marveled by Ward. Rooted against him several times but can't deny his skill.

As for Dawson, my argument has always been that weight "draining" offsets natural size advantages and people purposely overlook the difficulty of fighting a naturally larger guy. Wejust disagree there so there's no point in arguing.

[BOMB ZQUAD]

Amir Khan

and Anthony Joshua... people are rating this guy above Wilder already, are you kidding me? He's never been chin tested, never fought anyone decent. I'm not saying he is trash, he looks to have a lot of potential... but it is too soon to judge him.

[The Hammer]

I was actually watching that fight critically, earlier today and Ward beat Kessler through sheer talent. Not one of the headbuts was aimed. He works in like Holyfield and butts happen. I wish he did more to avoid them. It's not purposeful like Hopkins and some truly dirty fighters.

Al Bernstein said while showing the replay of the final head butt that ended the fight:

"Let's be honest here, Ward came in like a billy goat".

Ward was hitting Kessler at will after he was blinded in one eye by an earlier head butt (3rd round if I remember correctly) and couldn't see the punches coming.

Kessler in his corner said "I can't see."

Also, the shady home referee Jack Reiss kept admonishing Kessler for nothing in his corner between rounds and that was confusing him.

[Redd Foxx]

Amir Khan

and Anthony Joshua... people are rating this guy above Wilder already, are you kidding me? He's never been chin tested, never fought anyone decent. I'm not saying he is trash, he looks to have a lot of potential... but it is too soon to judge him.

I have nothing against Brit boxers but the fans are so quick to overrate their guys. It's embarrassing. Remember the guys who were convinced that Price was ready to beat Wlad two years ago? Now the comical clutz Fury is going to do it? And Joshua, who is a hatchling in the HW game? Some of my all time faves are Brits but please guys, don't act so desperate. Your country's athletes don't validate you as a person.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Andre Ward because if he wasn't permitted to use illegal tactics (head butt, repeatedly clinch, hit off the break etc.) he would be a very ordinary boxer. I'd respect him if I saw him defeat a decent opponent without resorting to illegal tactics.

Floyd Mayweather, because he always fights with advantages: home advantage, his preferred weight (against Hatton and Canelo), referees like Bayless and Cortez that help out when needed, and judges who score rounds for him when he does little except run and pitty-pat. If Mayweather were to fight and defeat Golovkin at 160 (no catch weight, no home referees and home judges) then I'd respect him. After all, Roberto Duran who was a naturally smaller man than Mayweather moved up and defeated Iran Barkley, who was bigger than GGG.

Amir Khan, who is really nothing special at all but who receives a lot of hype and media attention.

Hatton was already WBA champion at 147 after he beat Luis Collazo in 2006, this is a year before he fought Floyd Mayweather.

Canelo went out on social media and challenged Floyd Mayweather to fight at 150 lbs, then negotiations took place and the fight happened at 152, then after he got his ass whooped he started *****in about the damn weight, even though he was the one who acted all tough and wanted to fight at 150, if he was drained he has nobody to blame except his own fat ass cuz he doesn't take care of himself between fights and he's fighting at a weight that's much lower than his normal weight so that he's bigger than his opponents on fight night, he was 168+ against Floyd anyway.

Roberto Duran started at 135, Floyd started at 130, Barkley wasn't an olympian and his record was 25-4 with 16 KOs and 1 KO loss going into the fight, Golovkin as a much better fighter and a much stronger puncher than Barkely and Golovkin is undefeated with like 20 KOs in a row, yeah they were against bums for the most part, but still he's a much better fighter than Barkely, so Floyd moving up and beating GGG at the age of 38 would be one of the biggest accomplishments in the history of the sport.
Duran beating Barkley is like Mayweather beating Dela Hoya or Canelo, 24 lbs away from the weight he started his career at and Barkely can't even be mentioned in the same sentence with Dela Hoya even though Dela Hoya was 34.

Not gonna address the ref and judges issue cuz it's ridiculous and u know it.

[TBear]

Non biased went right out the window!