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Official Timothy Bradley vs Jessie Vargas fight discussion thread
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I honestly don't expect anything less than Bradley thoroughly outboxing Vargas in a 9-3 type of decision.
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Timothy "Desert Storm" Bradley
Offense-9
Defense-7
Power-6
Speed-8
Movement-8
Chin-7
Stamina-8
Machismo-10 (11 with Timothy Bradley Sr.)
The first fighter to beat Pacman, via controversial decision, once he attained superstar status...opponents complain of intentional headbutts...lately will tune out trainer, and get into brutal toe to toe slugfests with the opponent...solid victory over the great Manuel Marquez
Prediction: loss via controversial SD to Jessie Vargas
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Originally posted by dan_cov View PostPeople are giving Vargas a shot because Bradley is flat-out overrated. People go on as if he is this slick fighter with great head movement, ring I.Q and counterpunching ability the reality is he is a wildman, a total overachiever who can't stick to a gameplan (b-b-but Marquez doe).
Honestly they talk as if the guy has elite skills.
He is like a little toy you wind up and it runs forward windmilling its little baby-fists.
Its not they think Vargas is great just they know that Bradley isn't anywhere near as good as advertised. The only ones who think so are Manny fans trying to hype the win he has over him.
The fact the fight with Chaves was even close tells you he really isn't that good. True world class fighters should not be struggling with guys like that regardless of styles, he sucks.
He probably should beat Vargas's ordinary ass without much difficulty but its Bradley so he is bound to make it much closer than needed and leave it in the judges hands.
I would list his resume but you know who he has beaten so I won't waste the time.
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Here's my opinion for what it's worth.
I think Bradley is on the other side of 30 at this stage of his career. He's also shown that he is more of a brawler than he once was, and I don't know if that's been a conscious decision, or he's getting longer in the tooth.
I like Vargas, and think he's shown heart, and good talent both natural and learned. What I'm not sure about in this fight is going with Erik Morales as a trainer. If Morales is smart, he won't make him fight like he did. Morales is a legend, and maybe he has one way of doing things, I'm not sure but I think Vargas best shot is to use his speed, and length.
Vargas has a great jab, for me that's the key for him in this fight. Bradley is going to look to work his way in, and get dirty like he always does. Vargas needs to use that length and speed and try and catch Bradley at distance. I don't think he will have much issues with Bradley in terms of strength, it will be more his tactics on the inside and his experience.
I'm picking Vargas in a close decision win.Last edited by Cuauhtémoc1520; 06-25-2015, 03:42 PM.
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Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View PostHere's my opinion for what it's worth.
I think Bradley is on the other side of 30 at this stage of his career. He's also shown that he is more of a brawler than he once was, and I don't know if that's been a conscious decision, or he's getting longer in the tooth.
I like Vargas, and think he's shown heart, and good talent both natural and learned. What I'm not sure about in this fight is going with Erik Morales as a trainer. If Morales is smart, he won't make him fight like he did. Morales is a legend, and maybe he has one way of doing things, I'm not sure but I think Vargas best shot is to use his speed, and length.
Vargas has a great jab, for me that's the key for him in this fight. Bradley is going to look to work his way in, and get dirty like he always does. Vargas needs to use that length and speed and try and catch Bradley at distance. I don't think he will have much issues with Bradley in terms of strength, it will be more his tactics on the inside and his experience.
I'm picking Vargas in a close decision win.
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Originally posted by Mr Ehrmantraut View PostI don't think Bradley has ever thoroughly outboxed anyone.
If bradley got a UD i would be shocked as hell. I'm not even going to vote as bradley is to unpredictable as to what he will do. Chances are he won't stick to a game plan and fu@k this up!!
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