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  • BWC
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    Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc View Post
    Wilder started gassing out in Molina's fight. That wilder vs Povetkin, I'd say Pov takes the win.

    But the Wilder vs Stiverne, it's close as hell with Wilder having the edge IMO

    It's gonna be the best HW in a LONG time, no doubt about it. Molina rocked Wilder with his punches lol, wobbled around quite a bit. Imagine Povetkin? I know for a fact Povetkin is much more powerful
    Povetkin is not known as a real power puncher, in fact Molina is. Povetkin's real asset is he is relentless and pushes hard not so much some sort of power..

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  • BWC
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    Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc View Post
    Wilder started gassing out in Molina's fight. That wilder vs Povetkin, I'd say Pov takes the win.

    But the Wilder vs Stiverne, it's close as hell with Wilder having the edge IMO
    Didn't see it. He was pretty fresh in Round 9..

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  • BOMB ZQUAD
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    Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
    A compact tight powerful counter puncher. Someone like Stiverne ironically.

    Wilder's footwork and inside fighting is awful and he is massively out strengthened by Povetkin so he can't even rough him up in the clinch. An aggressive top class come forward fighter is going to destroy Wilder. Hell even the current Arreola could crush him. Look at the success the God awful Molina had plodding forward occasionally while only throwing one or two punches at a time. A fast precise combination punching wizard like Povetkin is going to have a field day. Team Wilder can clearly see this too.
    Wilder started gassing out in Molina's fight. That wilder vs Povetkin, I'd say Pov takes the win.

    But the Wilder vs Stiverne, it's close as hell with Wilder having the edge IMO. But Carlos Takam was keeping up for a while, so did Huck. As rounds passed by, they started gassing out... while Povetkin keeps hammering them with uppercuts, swings, all in the inside game. Wilder was gassing out a bit in Molina's fight... The only person that can batter and slowdown povetkin is Wlad. Wilder is nowhere near as technical or skilled as Wlad.

    It's gonna be the best HW fight in a LONG time, no doubt about it. Molina rocked Wilder with his punches lol, wobbled around quite a bit. Imagine Povetkin? I know for a fact Povetkin is much more powerful
    Last edited by BOMB ZQUAD; 06-16-2015, 03:09 PM.

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  • BWC
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    Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
    A compact tight powerful counter puncher. Someone like Stiverne ironically.

    Wilder's footwork and inside fighting is awful and he is massively out strengthened by Povetkin so he can't even rough him up in the clinch. An aggressive top class come forward fighter is going to destroy Wilder. Hell even the current Arreola could crush him. Look at the success the God awful Molina had plodding forward occasionally while only throwing one or two punches at a time. A fast precise combination punching wizard like Povetkin is going to have a field day. Team Wilder can clearly see this too.
    Well he'll probably fight Arreola in September. We'll see how that fight goes. That will give us a better indication how Povetkin would go. Also I would note that Molina is a 2" taller and outreaches Sasha by 4-5". I would agree that Wilder's walking straight back can get him into trouble and that will need to be corrected, but by the same token Sasha was absolutely obliterated by Wlad's jab. I guess you didn't notice that the guy you picked to beat Sasha is NOTHING like the guy who actually DID beat him. Sasha kills guys like you mentioned..
    Last edited by BWC; 06-16-2015, 03:04 PM.

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  • Arthur Daley
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    Originally posted by BWC View Post
    So now you're saying Povetkin is Mike Tyson? Ooooookkkaaayyy

    I would flip it around. What kind of fighter would you pick to beat a fighter with a 75" reach, slow feet, little to no jab effectiveness, who wants to charge his opponent and fight inside to land hooks?

    I would pick a long, rangy, jab fighter with good mobility who can frustrate the smaller fighter and tire him but popping him everytime he tries to get inside. Lo and behold what do we have here?
    A compact tight powerful counter puncher. Someone like Stiverne ironically.

    Wilder's footwork and inside fighting is awful and he is massively out strengthened by Povetkin so he can't even rough him up in the clinch. An aggressive top class come forward fighter is going to destroy Wilder. Hell even the current Arreola could crush him. Look at the success the God awful Molina had plodding forward occasionally while only throwing one or two punches at a time. A fast precise combination punching wizard like Povetkin is going to have a field day. Team Wilder can clearly see this too.

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  • SlySlickSmooth
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    Have they even tried to contact them? You guys are the champion, fight the man.

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  • BWC
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    Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
    Think logically here for a second. If you had to pick a fighter from the past to easily destroy Wilder early would you go for Mike Tyson or Larry Holmes? Bonus points for answering without turning to hatred.
    So now you're saying Povetkin is Mike Tyson? Ooooookkkaaayyy

    I would flip it around. What kind of fighter would you pick to beat a fighter with a 75" reach, slow feet, little to no jab effectiveness, who wants to charge his opponent and fight inside to land hooks?

    I would pick a long, rangy, jab fighter with good mobility who can frustrate the smaller fighter and tire him but popping him everytime he tries to get inside. Lo and behold what do we have here?

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  • Arthur Daley
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    Originally posted by BWC View Post
    haha really. The way you guys talk about Povetkin, it's just hilarious. Is this the same guy who barely beat Marco Huck? What, it it because he knocked out a not even trying Perez? WTF..
    Think logically here for a second. If you had to pick a fighter from the past to easily destroy Wilder early would you go for Mike Tyson or Larry Holmes? Bonus points for answering without turning to hatred.

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  • BWC
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    Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
    They aren't going to fight Povetkin. They'll do whatever it takes to avoid him and possibly drop the belt if need be. I mean, Molina was rocking Wilder.
    Wilder won't drop the belt. Wlad will want to fight him pretty quick after Fury in a unification bout..

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  • BWC
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    Originally posted by Travycat View Post
    Personal opinion, but they're not trying to fight Povetkin next. Probably not for 2 more fights, unfortunately. Deontay went from wanting to fight the best with all of that chatter before the Stiverne fight, to having Haymon "advising" (cough bull**** cough) him on fights where he can make money--which is cool. I mean, you don't want to be getting hit in the face repeatedly and not get out at some point with a nice nest egg to retire on. Just don't be the champ if you're not going to fight the number 1's and mandatories. You look back at Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Foreman, Frazier--THE GREATS, these guys fought EVERYONE. Society has gotten a little soft and a lot of these new guys are more interested in being personalities than boxers. Previous gens had both. I'm not a big UFC guy--I'll watch some of the fights here and there, but I wish boxing had Dana White sometimes. That dude is just sort of like, "You're fighting him next. Don't like it? Vacate the belt." I love that mentality.
    haha what total BS. Want to know who Frazier's first title defenses were? Dave Zyglewicz and Jerry Quarry..

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