Comments Thread For: Team Wilder: We're Not Going To Sit, Wait For Povetkin

[BWC]

Geez guy are you really truly attempting to compare Wilder to Joe Frazier?? Okay, I will bite!

I will start by saying that Ali was the true HW champ and Frazier was defending the NYSAC belt when he fought Jerry in his 23rd fight. You also make it sound like Jerry Quarry was some scrub. When in fact he only had two loses when he fought Joe. He was also a Ring top ten fighter for the better part of a decade to include when he fought Frazier.

Frazier also fought Oscar Bonavena in his 12th fight and George Chuvalo in his 17th fight. He also fought Manuel Ramos in his 20th fight and Oscar again in his 21st fight. What do they all have in common? They were all Ring top ten fighters when they fought Joe.

Joe also fought Jimmy Ellis in a unification fight in his 24th fight and Hall of Fame Light Heavy Champ Bob Foster in his 25th fight. He then won recognition as the true World Heavyweight Champions when he beat Ali in his 26th fight.

Lets run those numbers again. Frazier beat five Ring top ten fighters in his first 25 fights and then beat Ali for the true HW Championship in only his 26th fight. Wilder has how many fights, 34? And he has beaten how many top ten fighters? Well, that would be just one, Stiverne.

With that said, you really should stop insulting the memory of the great Smokin Joe Frazier by comparing him in anyway shape or form to Wilder. I also have to ask does the PBC Public Relations department pay you overtime for all the work you are doing for them??

Again I'm not saying Wilder is anywhere near Frazier. I'm simply saying to say guys would fight "anyone" as if they were fighting the top guys in the division every single fight is ridiculous. It's simply nostalgia that's not borne out by the facts. And Wilder is no different than any other modern HW. I don't see Jennings doing jack out there. Is Pulev even alive? Where is the "does Jennings have any skills?" thread?

[KnockoutNed]

Wilder vacates shit -- he can't win another belt again.

He may make history becoming the first ever PBC HW champ

[Ravens Fan]

haha what total BS. Want to know who Frazier's first title defenses were? Dave Zyglewicz and Jerry Quarry..

Geez guy are you really truly attempting to compare Wilder to Joe Frazier?? Okay, I will bite!

I will start by saying that Ali was the true HW champ and Frazier was defending the NYSAC belt when he fought Jerry in his 23rd fight. You also make it sound like Jerry Quarry was some scrub. When in fact he only had two loses when he fought Joe. He was also a Ring top ten fighter for the better part of a decade to include when he fought Frazier.

Frazier also fought Oscar Bonavena in his 12th fight and George Chuvalo in his 17th fight. He also fought Manuel Ramos in his 20th fight and Oscar again in his 21st fight. What do they all have in common? They were all Ring top ten fighters when they fought Joe.

Joe also fought Jimmy Ellis in a unification fight in his 24th fight and Hall of Fame Light Heavy Champ Bob Foster in his 25th fight. He then won recognition as the true World Heavyweight Champions when he beat Ali in his 26th fight.

Lets run those numbers again. Frazier beat five Ring top ten fighters in his first 25 fights and then beat Ali for the true HW Championship in only his 26th fight. Wilder has how many fights, 34? And he has beaten how many top ten fighters? Well, that would be just one, Stiverne.

With that said, you really should stop insulting the memory of the great Smokin Joe Frazier by comparing him in anyway shape or form to Wilder. I also have to ask does the PBC Public Relations department pay you overtime for all the work you are doing for them??

[BWC]

LOL
"but those were recent"

Yes his long term record does not reflect a power puncher. Maybe he got some new vitamins or something haha but his record before Wlad would not indicate a guy who would flatten good heavyweights with solid chins

[BOMB ZQUAD]

Yes but those were recent. Before that he was not known as a major power puncher. He has 29 wins with 21 KOs. Not horrible or anything, not exactly Tysonesque either..

LOL
"but those were recent"

[BWC]

BWC I'm starting to doubt that you know anything about boxing. Povetkin has had 3 back to back to back highlight reel KOs. In the last he 2 viciously knocked out two iron chinned top 10 fighters in Takam and Perez. Molina has never beaten let alone knocked out a top 50 HW.

Yes but those were recent. Before that he was not known as a major power puncher. He has 29 wins with 21 KOs. Not horrible or anything, not exactly Tysonesque either..

[KnockoutNed]

Povetkin is not known as a real power puncher, in fact Molina is..

BWC I'm starting to doubt that you know anything about boxing. Povetkin has had 3 back to back to back highlight reel KOs. In the last he 2 viciously knocked out two iron chinned top 10 fighters in Takam and Perez. Molina has never beaten let alone knocked out a top 50 HW.

[RED REP]

I understand why DW would duck Pov, he'll get iced quick!

[BWC]

If Klitschko somehow gets past Fury, he has to fight another mandatory in Glazkov. WBC president Sulaimon said that a Klit-Wilder can only happen in 2017 at the earliest. There is no way that Wilder can fight Klitschko before having to fight his mandatory Povetkin.

Yeah we'll see. Glazkov I think could be moved back, just my hunch

[KnockoutNed]

Klit is booked to fight Fury in September. Likely the reason the deadline to begin negotiations is October. Coincidence? I think not. Coincidence that the President of the WBC came out this week and said Wilder-Wlad is one of the biggest potential fights in boxing? If Wlad and Wilder begin negotiations in late Sep before the deadline, Povetkin is on hold, just the way the rules work.

Heck even Tyson Fury tweeted to Wilder not to fight Povetkin and to wait until after he strips Wlad and then they can fight. Everyone knows which side the bread is buttered.

Wilder loses nothing by waiting to fight Povetkin and gains nothing by rushing to fight him. Better to let things play out and see if he can get a title shot in 2016. If not, he'll fight Povetkin and make a bunch of money doing it..

If Klitschko somehow gets past Fury, he has to fight another mandatory in Glazkov. WBC president Sulaimon said that a Klit-Wilder can only happen in 2017 at the earliest. There is no way that Wilder can fight Klitschko before having to fight his mandatory Povetkin.