Comments Thread For: Golovkin Shreds Andre Ward: Why Are You Talking ****?

[bojangles1987]

It is too late. But, it would make for better post-fight interviews because it's clear that he doesn't always fully comprehend Kellerman's questioning.

It would help if Max didn't always ask rambling questions. When a fighter doesn't speak English as a first language, don't ask long ass questions.

[Just Now Hit Me]

Google "coward Kazakhstan boxer". Let me know the first search result.

You're an idiot.

[i'm a fun haver]

I have a really hard time believing he said this himself. If so, holy ****.

Interesting that he's saying Ward said no at some point. Wonder how true that is.

Yall are the dumb ones. Of course I know a guy who can only say "mexican style" "big drama show" "listen max" "this is my gift to you" couldnt have possibly put together those sentences in english

Translated in English from Russian

[bojangles1987]

Why would you have any reason to doubt it's not true? Ward did have shoulder and promoter issues back then, but he still said no when asked at the fighter meeting.

HBO seem to have already apparently clarified the fight needed time to build, so I've no clue why Ward is acting like the financial reasoning for delaying the fight isn't a valid one when he's heard it directly from HBO.

I doubt everything that comes out of every fighter's mouth until I hear both sides. It wouldn't surprise me to know Ward turned it down at some point, because people love to "forget" that Ward used the "it should be PPV" reasoning before when talking about Golovkin.

[Gary Coleman]

So what he's saying is, he doesn't want to fight Andre Ward.

"Shots fired"...blanks, that is.

[HEND]

Ward was in a much different position than GGG. Ward doesn't fight the kind of style that can end someones career, so that risk isn't there. He also was a name due to the Super6 & being on HBO, so he brought pay-days with him.

GGG is a much more dangerous guy to fight, big name guys like Chavez Jr and Froch ended up either backing away from negotiations or refused to sign an extension w/ their promoter in order to secure the GGG bout.

GGG is also in a division where politics play a much much larger role in determining matchups. All of the top guys at 160 are in what amounts to the equivalent of a Boxing Cold-War, Haymon guys can't be allowed on HBO unless it's a purse-bid/mandatory challenge (HBO has stated that they no longer do business with Al Haymon, google it), and the remaining guys have their on circumstances on why they won't fight GGG (Cotto says GGG isn't a name, yet he fights Geale and those same criteria no longer apply) and Jermain Taylor who was with Haymon, now has been stripped and his belt is up for grabs in the N'Dam/Lemieux fight

The fact that 160 is a very weak division with only 4-5 "top guys" has made it difficult for GGG to get that career defining win to shut the haters up


Lemieux, Quillin, Cotto, Lee, which of these guys would you give credit to GGG for beating? I already know the answer.

I'm aware all of these but you didn't countered any of my facts. Those are still stand. And regardless what you wrote I still don't understand how the majority of people here can criticize a more accomplished fighter more than a less accomplished one in a situation like this. What really annoys me in Golovkin fans that they are just NOT ABLE TO CRITICIZE HIM.

His level of opposition? Everybody's fault but his.
His early career choices? Everybody's fault but not his.
Unweighed statements? Everybody's fault but his.
Holes in his game? "They are intentional"
Somebody criticizes him? "Hater!"

That's the thing I don't like dude, that's. It's not "growing hate" it's common sense. I don't believe that the world is polarised and just black and white but on this damn forum every second poster wants to see his favourite (especially the Golovkin and Pac fans) like they would be perfect knights in a shiny armour who are alone in this cold world full of vultures, haters and ducks. They don't think about it even a little that MAYBE just maybe their favourite is also not perfect.

I can count in my on hand the times I saw Golovkin fans criticized him in any form. On my one hand.

And to those who call Ward a duck. I can't prevent that but I would like to point out for you that from the Golovkin-Ward-Kovalev trio, the ONLY fighter who PROVED that he can fight and beat real elite opponents is Ward, not Kovalev or Golovkin.
For the record I don't think that any of them is a duck or anything, but if you already must call someone a duck then let's not that be the most accomplished and proved fighter from them because it looks foolish.

[Vasyl’s dad]

But he and his team are turning down Lara because he brings no money. He's too risky and brings no money. He's not exactly taking on all comers. I mean Monroe brought a big fanbase and a lot of money though, in GGG's world. But Lara doesn't. GGG has the luxury right now that he was built up as a feared fighter, and when that happens, other fighters who are having a tough time finding an opponent want to fight you. Right now Lara wants to fight and GGG and his team don't give his manager a call. Lara has been calling out for a fight since Martinez rejected GGG years ago.

Name Laras best win at 160. Oh, he doesn't have one? Interesting. He just fought last week, and he could have fouhght at 160 to show he really wants GGG, but he fought at 154 instead. Interesting indeed.

[Barcham]

So what he's saying is he doesn't want to fight Andre Ward.

"Shots fired"...blanks, that is.

You are as ****** as the little clown in your avatar is dead.

[Kagami Taiga]

So what he's saying is he doesn't want to fight Andre Ward.

"Shots fired"...blanks, that is.

That is my thing. Shots fired blah blah blah whatever. Are we gonna get a fight or no?

[Beater_of_ass]

So I've now seen in this thread that his English isn't too good so he says dumb things sometimes. Strange... I heard GGG fans giving Cotto **** for being caught off guard by a question not in his native language. Still it's not really shocking to hear GGG say Ward is dead to him after calling him out saying he won't fight him.

I can only imagine if Canelo or Cotto said they wouldn't fight each other and one was dead to them because of how the first negotiations went. Yet, it's GGG who is doing everything in his power to make fights happen right?