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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Nicholas Walters-Miguel Marriaga: Pre-Fight Report Card

    by Cliff Rold - Belts come and go. Usually, they go in the ring. Sometimes, it happens on the scale. We’ve still got a title fight Saturday night on HBO (10 PM EST/PST) but only one man can win it.

    WBA titlist Nicholas Walters, widely seen as the current division leader at 126 lbs., missed the limit on Friday and what that means for the main event remains to be seen. In what already looked like a fight with big spoiler potential after a bust-out 2014 for Walters, will Walters be so drained from the effort to come down the scale that it affects his performance?

    Or is this the latest case of a fighter who couldn’t make the limit and will now benefit from the day-before-weigh-in failsafe of rehydration? Is it challenger Manuel Marriaga now at a potentially serious competitive disadvantage after holding up his end of the bargain?

    Could it be none of these questions matter and we just end up with a good fight?

    This is one of those fights that, based on what we’ve seen of both men, looks thrilling. It’s also, based on what we’ve seen of both men, terribly difficult to figure. Walters, with his wins over Darchinyan and Donaire, has clearly faced and bested the better men. Marriaga’s biggest name win is gatekeeper Christopher Martin.

    Walters wins on resume.

    Resumes don’t throw punches.

    In the Martin fight, and other footage of Marriaga, certain attributes stand out. His power is legitimate (the only fighter to stop Martin) and he’s skilled. He has good head movement and doesn’t seem to get outside himself. The hook to the body sets up solid combinations upstairs.

    And Marriaga is quick. Speed could be where this duel of knockout punchers gets decided.

    Walters, like Marriaga, is a skilled battler. He outboxed as well as outfought Donaire. It was Donaire’s speed that made it interesting early. Donaire wobbled Walters but couldn’t follow up and the bigger man took over. Walters, even missing the limit, won’t enjoy the same size edge he had over Darchinyan and Donaire. Marriaga is a career Featherweight who has fought higher on the scale. Both men will likely rehydrate to above the Lightweight limit.
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  • glenn mcrory
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    *looks at Marriaga's previous titles*
    Damn, and I thought Walters was the one who missed weight.

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    • Syf
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      Don't agree On the upset. I doubt Walters killed himself to make the weight. He took a calculated risk of perhaps looking unprofessional ect, and will in return be healthy and big. He was no doubt planning a move up anyway.

      Don't see how he's seen as the slower guy here either. I've seen a couple Marriaga fights and he takes too much punishment before he kicks into gear. And I don't know who on Marriaga's roster of foes is seen as having the same sharpness as Walters. As for power, I think Walters should have an edge there as well. My guess, Marriaga, he's gonna give a fan friendly fight alright, but He's gonna get bombed out.

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      • crold1
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        Originally posted by glenn mcrory
        *looks at Marriaga's previous titles*
        Damn, and I thought Walters was the one who missed weight.
        Duly noted. Missed that on the edit board; edit passed on.

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        • any craic lad?
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          Marriaga looked very good against Martin but it's a long way up from that. May come down too how much Walters killed himself on the scale think Marriaga has a good shot but without knowing about his chin i'll side with Walters

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          • Drunken Cat
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            Originally posted by Syf
            Don't agree On the upset. I doubt Walters killed himself to make the weight. He took a calculated risk of perhaps looking unprofessional ect, and will in return be healthy and big. He was no doubt planning a move up anyway.

            Don't see how he's seen as the slower guy here either. I've seen a couple Marriaga fights and he takes too much punishment before he kicks into gear. And I don't know who on Marriaga's roster of foes is seen as having the same sharpness as Walters. As for power, I think Walters should have an edge there as well. My guess, Marriaga, he's gonna give a fan friendly fight alright, but He's gonna get bombed out.
            I must disagree. Coming in overweight is generally a bad sign. He lost his title and most likely was unable to lose more weight, which is why he was over. It's really not that logical to think he came in over in order to gain an advantage.

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            • Syf
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              Originally posted by Virgil Caine
              I must disagree. Coming in overweight is generally a bad sign. He lost his title and most likely was unable to lose more weight, which is why he was over. It's really not that logical to think he came in over in order to gain an advantage.
              And yet he came in looking healthy and big, as I said. Not drained in the least I'm sure you would agree. Boxing isn't only what goes on in the ring. There is maneuvering and nuance. Did you really think Walters was going to kill himself to make weight? To many, it's better to take the slap on the wrist and consequently come to the fight with a significant advantage over a dark horse opponent.

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              • Drunken Cat
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                Originally posted by Syf
                And yet he came in looking healthy and big, as I said. Not drained in the least I'm sure you would agree. Boxing isn't only what goes on in the ring. There is maneuvering and nuance. Did you really think Walters was going to kill himself to make weight? To many, it's better to take the slap on the wrist and consequently come to the fight with a significant advantage over a dark horse opponent.
                Yeah you were right.

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