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  • #81
    Originally posted by i'm a fun haver View Post
    Been out 19 months, supposedly just waiting on an offer.
    If he can make 168, then why is he fighting at 172?
    GGG is supposed to fight at 172 now?
    David Itskowich says that the time isn't right for GGG vs Ward right now.
    The article was on this website. Why do you pretend Ward is an option for GGG to fight in September?
    Probably precisely because he's been out 19 months. He didn't need to make the 168lb weight because it's a non-title bout so they just wanted to ease back down.

    He was 173.4 two and half weeks before the Smith fight so clearly, he could make 168 if he wanted to. No one said Golovkin had to fight at 172. Breathe, kid.

    I'm not saying Ward is an option for September, I'm just saying that there is no weight issue, just like there isn't one with Lara. Hence we can cross off another of the excuses for why these fights can't happen which tend to come from people like you.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      I'm not convinced he beats either. Lara is just not that good defensively.
      Lara's defense is the least of his concerns at least against Mayweather. The guy is a one handed fighter that never has a plan B in a tough fight. He does'nt let his hands go when the opportunity presents itself and is quite happy with pot shotting. He has no hope against Mayweather fighting the way he does. He has never seperated himself in a big fight to the point where you can say he clearly won the fight. Not sure in what universe Lara can outpoint Floyd.


      GGG just flat out kills him.

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      • #83
        ggg will make an excuse as to why he cannot fight lara and then fight a bum and you **** suckers will say everyone is scared of him but he still hasn't fought a fighter of lara caliber in his career

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        • #84
          Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
          Those are terrible rankings. No way should Murray, Jacobs, or N'Dam be that low. Sergio, Taylor, and Soliman shouldn't be there at all.

          Honestly, Lara's right there with Quillin and Jacobs. He could beat either. So he'd be top 5 at 160.
          The rankings are from boxingscene. Yeah top 5 would be my estimate as well.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            It's not about them being terrified . I'm sure they're confident Golovkin will win but the risk of Lara making him look bad is certainly there. If I'm not mistaken, outside of the KD's, Lara pretty much boxed Angulo's **** off and stopped him.


            you're mistaken. angulo was putting pressure on him for much of the night, and landing body shots without getting countered. lara fought quite a bit off of the ropes.

            that fight wasn't a cakewalk for lara by any stretch. it was an exciting boxing match, which is not what lara's people wanted in a fight with alfredo angulo.




            golovkin has an infinitely better jab, chin, power to the head and body. there's nothing angulo does better.


            if you recall, freddie hernandez, a nobody, did some decent work to lara's body as well.

            lara's a fighter that looks good, but isn't always as effective as his style might lead you to believe. i'm sure he's an absolute handful in the gym with 14 oz gloves and some headgear, but in a pro fight he's vulnerable.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by New England View Post
              you're mistaken. angulo was putting pressure on him for much of the night, and landing body shots without getting countered. lara fought quite a bit off of the ropes.

              that fight wasn't a cakewalk for lara by any stretch. it was an exciting boxing match, which is not what lara's people wanted in a fight with alfredo angulo.




              golovkin has an infinitely better jab, chin, power to the head and body. there's nothing angulo does better.


              if you recall, freddie hernandez, a nobody, did some decent work to lara's body as well.

              lara's a fighter that looks good, but isn't always as effective as his style might lead you to believe. i'm sure he's an absolute handful in the gym with 14 oz gloves and some headgear, but in a pro fight he's vulnerable.
              He'd still be the best opponent on Golovkin's resume by a country mile.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by BrushMyAssHair View Post
                Good fight, as long as Lara actually comes for a boxing match and not a track and field meet. Like seriously i love skilful mobile boxing but that guy has taken it a step too far before, moving just for the sake of not engaging, i hate that.
                I agree but I can't see him doing that for more than a couple of rds with Golovkin. With the way GGG cuts the ring off, and goes to the body it would be just a matter of time until Lara has stopped moving and pushed to engaging.

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                • #88
                  No GGG is not ducking Lara like his haters are saying.

                  But his ****riders are on some bullshi* too. This is a great fight for GGG to take and the best available opponent that is willing to fight him. Whether you scored the fight 115-113 Canelo, 114-114, or 115-113 Lara, we all saw that Lara is right up there on the level of Cotto, Canelo and any other of the top fighters from 154-160 that we want to see GGG fight. I'm sure most of us would pick him to beat Miguel Cotto, in fact. If you were to do a complete ranking from 154-160 right now, it would look something like this:

                  1. Golovkin
                  2, 2a and 2b. Canelo/Cotto/Lara
                  3. Andrade
                  4. Lee
                  5. Quillin
                  6-5000. Who the **** cares right now?


                  As far as the matchup itself, no Lara is not Willie Monroe just because they are southpaws and black Cubans. Lara has a longer reach than Monroe and a ton more experience at both the amateur and pro levels. He seems like a basic 1-2 fighter but he is actually very tricky. He has much better lead hand control, a much better sense of distance, makes his reach work much more effectively and has much better fundamentals. He does a good job of controlling his opponents head and circling out of range to avoid return fire. He is biggest weakness is like ****m Richardson said to B-Hop against Taylor, "amateurs don't fight inside".

                  Well, GGG is also a decorated amateur and is not an inside fighter. He fights at a range he is comfortable at just like Lara. That's why I think Lara can have some success than a lot of people are giving him credit for.

                  Where the problem will come is in the later rounds. GGG is a dedicated body puncher and this will likely wear on Lara and make him become more stationary as the fight progresses. Once Lara slows down that is when I can see GGG finishing him with a late round stoppage in a competitive fight.

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                  • #89
                    It's going to be tough for Lara to get a big fight. You just can't market a fight with this guy. And he has no one to blame but himself. He lost and stunk up the joint in the process in his biggest fight. A fight fans didn't even want in the first place. Only a handful of hardcore boxing fans were calling for Canelo to fight him. But he got the fight because he talked smack and disrespected Canelo. Then talked trash the entire promotion of the fight about how he was going to break Canelo's face. But when the fight came disgracefully ran all night got booed out the arena.

                    Had he actually fought Canelo even if he lost if he put on a good show his fanbase would of grown from the exposure of being on the big stage. Instead it went the opposite and now many fans have no interest in seeing Lara fight again. He had a tiny fanbase to begin with but after the stink of the Canelo fight it's impossible to get fans to buy a fight or show up to a fight with Lara involved.

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                    • #90
                      I would like to see the fight because I am sick of Lara and it would be a good knockout win for GGG. Lara wants to get a shot at the world's best middleweight by beating an unranked 154 pounder who was crushed by Cotto. Why didn't Lara beat a good middleweight and get himself a middleweight ranking instead of fighting a nobody? A win over GGG would be a big help to Lara's career. A win over Lara doesn't do much for GGG. Lara doesn't bring in much money. GGG's fans already know he will KO Lara and GGG haters will say he just beat a smaller fighter. Lara is so dull he dragged the very exciting Canelo into a dull fight that was really just a chase. You know Lara will run his ass off in a fight with GGG. GGG will catch him and knock him out sooner or later and Lara will be a good name on his resume so I am all for this fight.

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