Comments Thread For: Roach Details Golovkin's Flaws, Confident Cotto Wins

[North Star]

Roach is an overrated coach. His fighters have excellent offence but lack in defence and his gameplans are not the best in the business either.

Not to mention he talks to dyam much like hes the one fighting. Why sit here and describe what advantages you believe you have over a future opponent... keep it quiet and use it to ur advantage during training camp when you are going to fight him.

Nah, Roach implores defense for this fighters, it is just up to them to listen and do it. For example with Cotto, he actually is listening to Freddie telling him to keep up the headmovement and his defense, and be responsible by not standing in front of his man after throwing. Provodnikov and Pacquiao however, don't listen to the advice of being defensively responsible. And that is why Pac gets caught and Provodnikov is a punching bag.

[wlliam]

Evolve as a fight fan?! Get over yourself.

Cotto is the MW champion and fights there whether he's a natural MW or not. Golovkin is NOT a SMW champion.

You're trying to create the illusion of Golovkin being some monstrous MW when in fact he could and would make 154 himself if required. Unfortunately the same can't be said for Andre fighting at 160, nor can it be claimed he's willing to move up to 175 as shown with the Dawson fight.

I share the same logic, keep it up. Thats what i cant wrap my head around, how Cotto isnt a MW, hes just the MW Champ and currently had 2 fights at the weight...thats not a MW? well ****

[hitking]

Evolve as a fight fan?! Get over yourself.

Cotto is the MW champion and fights there whether he's a natural MW or not. Golovkin is NOT a SMW champion.

You're trying to create the illusion of Golovkin being some monstrous MW when in fact he could and would make 154 himself if required. Unfortunately the same can't be said for Andre fighting at 160, nor can it be claimed he's willing to move up to 175 as shown with the Dawson fight.

Do you not find it ironic that Cotto hasn't ever fought at the middleweight limit, even in his title winning effort? Does him weighing in UNDER the jr middleweight limit for this past weekend's fight mean nothing to you? Just use logic, instead of boxrec and fanboyism. Yes, he's the lineal middleweight champion by default. And eventually, if he stays in that division, he needs to see Gennady. But let's not pretend he's a middleweight just because it sounds good. And let's not pretend that the the title he's currently holding isn't a significant bargaining chip that lines him up for paydays that GGG can't currently offer. So if GGG's main goal remains unifying the middleweight belts, he's gonna have to get in line and wait.

As for GGG's ability to make 154. He says he can, but he hasn't done it. He also says he would only make it for a Floyd fight. So the notion that he makes it easily or comfortably is highly debatable.

As for Ward-Dawson. I would have preferred that Ward had moved up to 75, because it would have cleaned up that picture a lil better. But Dawson got all excited after a win, shot his mouth off, and basically served himself up on a platter to Ward. Not Ward's fault for taking advantage of an advantage thst was presented to him.

[hitking]

I share the same logic, keep it up. Thats what i cant wrap my head around, how Cotto isnt a MW, hes just the MW Champ and currently had 2 fights at the weight...thats not a MW? well ****

Was Henry Armstrong a welterweight?

[Mick Higgs]

Could we please cut the crap & just make the fight?!!!!!!!!!!!!!..............

[alexKO]

Do you not find it ironic that Cotto hasn't ever fought at the middleweight limit, even in his title winning effort? Does him weighing in UNDER the jr middleweight limit for this past weekend's fight mean nothing to you? Just use logic, instead of boxrec and fanboyism. Yes, he's the lineal middleweight champion by default. And eventually, if he stays in that division, he needs to see Gennady. But let's not pretend he's a middleweight just because it sounds good. And let's not pretend that the the title he's currently holding isn't a significant bargaining chip that lines him up for paydays that GGG can't currently offer. So if GGG's main goal remains unifying the middleweight belts, he's gonna have to get in line and wait.

As for GGG's ability to make 154. He says he can, but he hasn't done it. He also says he would only make it for a Floyd fight. So the notion that he makes it easily or comfortably is highly debatable.

As for Ward-Dawson. I would have preferred that Ward had moved up to 75, because it would have cleaned up that picture a lil better. But Dawson got all excited after a win, shot his mouth off, and basically served himself up on a platter to Ward. Not Ward's fault for taking advantage of an advantage thst was presented to him.

That's my problem - if you're willing to challenge for a middleweight title, you should be willing to defend it at the full limit against any middleweight. If not, you should move down. Instead Cotto is draining middleweights down to catchweights whilst inexplicably still being rated as the middleweight champion.

It's similar to Mayweather at 154 - he holds or held a title that he won at a catchweight of 152 v Canelo yet would never entertain fighting the likes of Lara or GGG at 154.

[hitking]

That's my problem - if you're willing to challenge for a middleweight title, you should be willing to defend it at the full limit against any middleweight. If not, you should move down. Instead Cotto is draining middleweights down to catchweights whilst inexplicably still being rated as the middleweight champion.

It's similar to Mayweather at 154 - he holds or held a title that he won at a catchweight of 152 v Canelo yet would never entertain fighting the likes of Lara or GGG at 154.

Until B-side fighters start standing up for themselves. And until they put integrity over money. They'll get very little sympathy from me.

As for Floyd as a jr middleweight. Floyd is a welterweight that moonlights as a jr middleweight for the right price. Two of his hr middleweight fights were at the time, the high grossing fight in boxing history. His other, at the time, was the third highest grossing fight of his career. Currently, GGG nor Lara offer that kinda risk/reward that is tempting Floyd to step outta his comfort zone.

[Chopper417]

True but fortunately for GGG, a granite chin, relentless pressure and sickening power are enough to deal with any current middleweight. Put him in with a prime Hagler, Leonard or Hopkins and things would get interesting

Are we seriously putting GGG in the same sentence as those names? lol I love GGG as much as the next guy but this is getting a bit carried away haha

[rajaomair]

That's my problem - if you're willing to challenge for a middleweight title, you should be willing to defend it at the full limit against any middleweight. If not, you should move down. Instead Cotto is draining middleweights down to catchweights whilst inexplicably still being rated as the middleweight champion.

It's similar to Mayweather at 154 - he holds or held a title that he won at a catchweight of 152 v Canelo yet would never entertain fighting the likes of Lara or GGG at 154.

This.

[alexKO]

Until B-side fighters start standing up for themselves. And until they put integrity over money. They'll get very little sympathy from me.

As for Floyd as a jr middleweight. Floyd is a welterweight that moonlights as a jr middleweight for the right price. Two of his hr middleweight fights were at the time, the high grossing fight in boxing history. His other, at the time, was the third highest grossing fight of his career. Currently, GGG nor Lara offer that kinda risk/reward that is tempting Floyd to step outta his comfort zone.

There will always be someone willing to starve themselves for a payday. The real problem lies with the lack of one governing body. The UFC model for MMA works when it comes to making the best fight the best, which is ultimately what attracts new fans but an effective monopoly creates other problems.