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What exactly is Haymon's end game with PBC?

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  • #11
    We find out after the TV Deals are over in the next couple of years! I doubt Haymon being the Brilliant Businessman that he is just jumped into this thing with No Long Term Plan. We we will just have to wait and see.

    Worse Case scenario is what? PBC was just a Infomercial for boxing to Showcase new talent in Boxing so you then head back to Showtime with a Roster of talent that is more known now than they was before PBC?

    I guess we will just have to wait and see. I'm not betting against him based on his history of proving people wrong time and time again.

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    • #12
      ... In principle, Haymon wants to establish a franchise... (He doesn't use his money, right?)... At this point Haymon is experiencing, in order to "feel" just how the market reacts... My only problem with Haymon "experiment" is its SPREAD!... This SPREAD (i.e. too many TV channels employed into the experiment) might result in confusing results... Just an opinion...

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      • #13
        The end game is to have the PBC brand be synonymous with the top end of boxing. So that the public will think all the best fighters are with PBC and anyone not in PBC is not truly testing themselves in the big league.

        Similar to UFC. Or at least that's how it appears

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        • #14
          Originally posted by HMICHMIC View Post
          crash and burn while fattening his own pockets with no liability on his behalf.
          That's the only outcome I can see. There doesn't appear to be any concrete plan except to keep talent away from other promoters.

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          • #15
            the end game will be a PBC ppv event

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            • #16
              The ratings are really terrible I just went on tvbythenumbers and shows like teen mom do 1.5 plus and their budget is a fraction of pbcs. The reality is shows with these ratings get cancelled. He needs bellator type budgets or this will end quickly.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                The ratings are really terrible I just went on tvbythenumbers and shows like teen mom do 1.5 plus and their budget is a fraction of pbcs. The reality is shows with these ratings get cancelled. He needs bellator type budgets or this will end quickly.
                The thing is that as long as Haymon continues to buy his airtime and the networks investment is extremely limited, they will let this farce continue. They have enough investment money to keep this going for two years. After that, we will see what happens. There is also the court case against Haymon pending and that may have a bearing on what happens as well.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                  The thing is that as long as Haymon continues to buy his airtime and the networks investment is extremely limited, they will let this farce continue. They have enough investment money to keep this going for two years. After that, we will see what happens. There is also the court case against Haymon pending and that may have a bearing on what happens as well.
                  If it continues at this rate I doubt it makes it two years. Sure they bought the air time already but I think the investors will just cut their losses. There is no point in throwing money away on fighters and advertising for something that's going nowhere.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                    If it continues at this rate I doubt it makes it two years. Sure they bought the air time already but I think the investors will just cut their losses. There is no point in throwing money away on fighters and advertising for something that's going nowhere.
                    The investors' money is spent for TV air time, venue, promotion and fighters...
                    ... The advertisers' money is income (together with the gate money)...

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                    • #20
                      His goal is to grow the pie, not slice off a larger chunk of the steadily shrinking pie.

                      If he can grow the pie of boxing, his money gets bigger as a result even if he keeps just a certain share, although if it works well his share should increase also so he would be getting a huge return.


                      Can he grow the pie in boxing is the question, and it is a huge risk but with that comes the possibility of huge rewards.

                      If you want a good example of a guy that did something like this look at Bernie Eccelstone and F1. He was able to corner the market on the TV rights at the perfect time and did a lot of good for the sport while lining his own pockets.
                      Last edited by The Gambler1981; 06-07-2015, 03:19 PM.

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