Cotto needs to be on the p4p list

[RichCCFC]

Why isn't he on there already, wtf? Far more 'p4p skill' than the likes of Froch and Klitschko.

[RAV3N]

because he beat a drained geale or the one legged martinez?

[gmc_rfc_06]

If Miguel beats a top level opponent he'll be back on lists.

Until then, nah.

[New England]

Why isn't he on there already, wtf? Far more 'p4p skill' than the likes of Froch and Klitschko.

froch is arguable for sure. dude needed two fights to get a decisive victory over george groves.

wladimir has dominated his opposition for the better part of a decade.

[NEETzsche]

the winner of cotto-canelo will surely find a place on most people's lists

[RichCCFC]

froch is arguable for sure. dude needed two fights to get a decisive victory over george groves.

wladimir has dominated his opposition for the better part of a decade.

I like Wlad, but heavyweight division been so ****ty. He looks very limited in comparison, can only fight at one range too.

[New England]

I like Wlad, but heavyweight division been so ****ty. He looks very limited in comparison, can only fight at one range too.

so? MW is "****ty." cotto just defeated a sh#tty opponent. he beat a sh#tty opponent for the belt, considering that martinez is retiring, and literally has trouble walking. prior to that he beat delvin freaking rodriguez, a club fighter, and lost decisively to austin trout.


wladimir is extremely effective. why fight inside when you've got a bad chin, a phone pole jab, and you're strong enough to hold virtually any man on the planet with boxing gloves on? boxing is about fighting to your strengths, and limiting your opponent's strengths.


the p4p list isn't a measure of how well rounded you are. it's a measurement of your effectiveness in an abstract evaluation of boxers without considering size.

[RichCCFC]

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so? MW is "****ty." cotto just defeated a sh#tty opponent. he beat a sh#tty opponent for the belt, considering that martinez is retiring, and literally has trouble walking. prior to that he beat delvin freaking rodriguez, a club fighter, and lost decisively to austin trout.


wladimir is extremely effective. why fight inside when you've got a bad chin, a phone pole jab, and you're strong enough to hold virtually any man on the planet with boxing gloves on? boxing is about fighting to your strengths, and limiting your opponent's strengths.


the p4p list isn't a measure of how well rounded you are. it's a measurement of your effectiveness in an abstract evaluation of boxers without considering size.

Cotto has done it in 5 weight divisions against some of the best of the era. Most of Wlad's opponents are no better than Geale p4p. He doesn't have to learn how to fight on the inside because no one currently is good enough to force him to at the weight. Doesn't mean he should get off with that. Joshua already looks to have more layers to his game than Wladimir.

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I just realized that you two aren't the same posters. I always mixed up you too and I blended you together. I guess it's because the similar styled username and both of your username starts with an "R". And of course both of you have Golovkin in avi.

[phxmarlo]

For fighting. Bums lol