Anthony Joshua: Dillian Whyte will get his opportunity

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  • KO'er
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    #11
    Anthony Joshua VS Dillian Whyte. This fight.

    This fight makes my other-wordly parts tingle.

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    • londoner
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      #12
      Back then Whyte was much the same shape and size he is now. Joshua was a gangly stringbean teenager. People commonly complain about refs in British rings stepping in too soon to stop fights, and maybe they're right, but if the ref isn't on the ball when and if AJ fights Whyte again, Dillian is going to get seriously damaged.

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      • LacedUp
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        #13
        Originally posted by Ryn0
        Well, Whyte did knock him down in the amateurs and beat him quite easily. I think thats where the animosity stems from. Whyte had a more professional style at the time.

        Part of my hesitation about how good Joshua really is comes from parts of that, how his jab isn't a heavyweight jab just a range finder, how he is breathing really heavily against Whyte and had significantly less muscle. How he doesn't really extend his punches to make the most of his reach and how he doesn't look great backing up. I hope he can correct these things.
        I've seen you say this before and I just can't agree at all. Show me one stage in any of his pro fights where he's used it as a range finder. It has literally never happened.

        With regards to the amateur fight. Come on. It was both of theirs first whatever fight. Means literally zero.

        I'm looking at how they are now and I just haven't seen anything from Whyte that suggest he could beat Joshua.

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        • GoldenGloveLove
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          #14
          Make it happen, Cap'n.

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          • Jim Jeffries
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            #15
            Originally posted by Ryn0
            Well, Whyte did knock him down in the amateurs and beat him quite easily. I think thats where the animosity stems from. Whyte had a more professional style at the time.

            Part of my hesitation about how good Joshua really is comes from parts of that, how his jab isn't a heavyweight jab just a range finder, how he is breathing really heavily against Whyte and had significantly less muscle. How he doesn't really extend his punches to make the most of his reach and how he doesn't look great backing up. I hope he can correct these things.
            I thought their fight was fairy close, minus the knockdown. Whyte looked like a Toughman competitor throwing haymakers the whole time, while Joshua showed pretty decent composure and held his own. Anthony has come a hell of a long way since then, both technically and physically. Whyte less so.

            Should be a decent fight, while it lasts. Bit risky and unnecessary for Joshua, but props to him if he takes it.

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            • FrankieBruno
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              #16
              When Jousha chin is tested we will know if he is the real deal or not

              It only takes one fight for u to go from lennox lewis potential to audley harrison level

              there was a time when audley harrison was being made out to be a beast and look what happened

              ive heard stories about jousha gettin dropped in sparring

              the hw division is brutal, prospects can go from hero to zero overnight and never look the same again

              i remember jousha was wobbled in the olympics, i think it was against the chinese guy?

              i like his offence, but what happens when his chin is tapped remains to be seen

              approach with caution
              Last edited by FrankieBruno; 06-05-2015, 03:16 PM.

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              • Fury4daWIN
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                #17
                Originally posted by Ryn0
                Well, Whyte did knock him down in the amateurs and beat him quite easily. I think thats where the animosity stems from. Whyte had a more professional style at the time.

                Part of my hesitation about how good Joshua really is comes from parts of that, how his jab isn't a heavyweight jab just a range finder, how he is breathing really heavily against Whyte and had significantly less muscle. How he doesn't really extend his punches to make the most of his reach and how he doesn't look great backing up. I hope he can correct these things.
                This is a peculiar statement. Joshua to me has a solid, steampole jab, one of the heavier jabs in the division. Reminds me of Bruno in a way, as do other aspects of his game.

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                • cameltoe
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                  #18
                  Yes the biggest test is to see how he reacts when he is hit with a solid, flush shot. Only then will we know- it could be David Price 2.

                  If I was going to be critical of Joshua it's that he's too stiff. I don't agree that the Jab is a range finder, it definitely has intent, but i agree that he doesn't seem to use the full length of his reach.

                  He obviously lifts heavy weights day in, day out, (he's a tank of a man) and I think he needs to either cut back on that just a touch, or employ some serious stretching into his routine to counteract the tension. He just seems a little rigid and not fluid, and it will affect his power ultimately and will probably make him look bad on the back foot too.

                  What I love about him is his intelligence. He's had guys hurt in there that he could have tried to blast out straight away but he's held back- this is because he doesn't want to risk gassing. He waits for the opportunity to present itself rather than get carried away- it shows great composure and this is not something you can learn. For reference, see David Haye vs Carl Thompson or the second Price vs Thompson fight.

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                  • BWC
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                    Originally posted by cameltoe
                    Yes the biggest test is to see how he reacts when he is hit with a solid, flush shot. Only then will we know- it could be David Price 2.

                    If I was going to be critical of Joshua it's that he's too stiff. I don't agree that the Jab is a range finder, it definitely has intent, but i agree that he doesn't seem to use the full length of his reach.

                    He obviously lifts heavy weights day in, day out, (he's a tank of a man) and I think he needs to either cut back on that just a touch, or employ some serious stretching into his routine to counteract the tension. He just seems a little rigid and not fluid, and it will affect his power ultimately and will probably make him look bad on the back foot too.

                    What I love about him is his intelligence. He's had guys hurt in there that he could have tried to blast out straight away but he's held back- this is because he doesn't want to risk gassing. He waits for the opportunity to present itself rather than get carried away- it shows great composure and this is not something you can learn. For reference, see David Haye vs Carl Thompson or the second Price vs Thompson fight.
                    That's my only problem with Joshua. He seems too big now. The man has gone from 225 (and still looking massive) in his first pro fight to 248 against KJ. He seems way too bulky and leadfeet. I'd like to see him at like 230-235 with some more fluidity. Hardly looks a guy ready to go 12 rounds if need be.

                    I agree his jab is not great. I think Wilder uses it much better, but it should be AJ's primary weapon with an 82" reach.

                    That said, he'll breeze through Whyte and take the Lonsdale belt. The real tests will come later

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