Pacquaio days as an elite WW are over based off losses, choice of opp and new faces

[Luilun]

so losing to the number 1 p4p fighter of this era - in a competitive fight - now makes you a washed up journeyman?? lol

No when he was knocked out by Marquez he was done as an elite

[The Big Dunn]

No when he was knocked out by Marquez he was done as an elite

That's not what you said about Manny since that fight. What made you suddenly change your opinion?

[DreamerUSA]

Manny can still beat a lot of guys at WW, but he is'nt beating Brook or Thurman. Actually at this stage in Manny's career I think they both kill him. Even at 140 he can beat a lot of guys, but TC kills him and I would even favor Matthyse over him at this point. Manny can't hang with the top two or three guys at 140 or 147 imo. So yeah. I think he is done as far as elite goes. Does'nt mean he can't win some meaningful fights and collect some paydays.

If I was handling him he would go on a 4 or 5 fight bum of the month club retirement tour.

[Hype job]

That's not what you said about Manny since that fight. What made you suddenly change your opinion?

Fanboy delusion.

[AsianGambler]

No when he was knocked out by Marquez he was done as an elite

If you say so baby girl.

[Luilun]

That's not what you said about Manny since that fight. What made you suddenly change your opinion?

Pacquaio has been wash up since that fight. What I said before the fight is Pacquaio is wash up that's why Floyd is fighting him after ducking him for 6 years once he was knock out he called Ellerbee lets make the fight

[SilverMiles]

Its simple....maidana and porter actually are welterweights and are top ten and beat top ten guys


Algieri and Rios have done nothing at 147....maidana n porter are better welterweights

The only people who make an argument for PAC winning that fight are his camp, skip bayless and you...he clearly lost to may weather just deal with it... It wasn't even close

Honestly this whole beat true welterweight thing is a silly arguement, people acting like Manny is fighting guys from Jr. Lightweight. He's fighting top fighters from Jr. Welterweigt.

I would much rather Pacquiao fight the best Jr. Welterweight in the world than fight the 6th and 7th best welterweight.

I could careless how many fights Ortiz and Maidana have at welterweight compared to Bradley and Marquez, they're simply a better fighter than both men, period point blank.

Simple fact is Maidana and Porter are no better than Algieri and Rios, if they fought all the fights would be competitive and at the end of the day that's what matters.

The only argument you can make for Floyd winning is if you score punches that touch the gloves and posing as an offense. Based of damaged done one man clearly won.

[The Big Dunn]

Honestly this whole beat true welterweight thing is a silly arguement, people acting like Manny is fighting guys from Jr. Lightweight. He's fighting top fighters from Jr. Welterweigt.

I would much rather Pacquiao fight the best Jr. Welterweight in the world than fight the 6th and 7th best welterweight.

I could careless how many fights Ortiz and Maidana have at welterweight compared to Bradley and Marquez, they're simply a better fighter than both men, period point blank.

Simple fact is Maidana and Porter are no better than Algieri and Rios, if they fought all the fights would be competitive and at the end of the day that's what matters.

The only argument you can make for Floyd winning is if you score punches that touch the gloves and posing as an offense. Based of damaged done one man clearly won.

So you are ok with a WW beltholder never defending that belt against an actual WW? It doesn't matter that the 6th or 7th best WW actually built his career at the weight (most likely).

In order to get a WW title fight you think it's ok to just be a very good Jr. WW?

Manny fans really are something.

[Johnny2x2x]

It all depends which weight Manny is fighting at. Is he fighting at Welter Weight (147), or is he fighting at Pacquiao WW (144), Manny WW (142), or Pacman WW (145). Maybe even he could fight at MannyPacquiao Super WW (150). So many choices.

[ThatDude44]

He wrecks any brawler like Provo and Rios. He gets wrecked by any top welter or junior welter with the slightest of boxing skills like Thurman, Maidana and Crawford.