Chris Algieri vs Kell Brook?

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  • LacedUp
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    #11
    Originally posted by `STEELHEAD
    thats what i want to know.
    Because Khan didn't want it?

    What part of the above is it that just goes over everyone's heads?

    Khan said he didn't believe Brook deserved to fight him and instead picked Chris Algieri.

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      #12
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Kell would destroy Algieri - Why would he fight someone coming off two losses? Come on.

      If Khan doesn't fight Mayweather in September, he should fight Brook. It's as simple as that.

      Khan keeps saying nobody in America wants to see it - but at the post fight presser the american press was asking about Kell Brook.

      Khan of course didn't answer the question.
      I doubt Kell puts Chris away, his chin is good, he took Pacs and Rulans punches and went the full 12. Yes he dropped, but against monstrous punchers.

      Under Jackson he is a better fighter with a gameplan.

      Kell isnt a inside fighter, similar to Khan he needs space to work.

      Kell doesnt enjoy pressure

      Carson Jones gave all kinds of problems to Kell Brook. I'm sure Chris Algieri is a better boxer than Carson Jones

      Chris is big, he looked huge in there last night, and he keeps coming forwards like the terminator

      Chris Algieri is a hell of a lot better fight than old man Rios.

      Although coming off 2 losses, u are right, maybe not a good look for Kell right now
      Last edited by FrankieBruno; 05-30-2015, 10:01 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by FrankieBruno
        I doubt Kell puts Chris away, his chin is good, he took Pacs and Rulans punches and went the full 12. Yes he dropped, but against monstrous punchers.

        Under Jackson he is a better fighter with a gameplan.

        Kell isnt a inside fighter, similar to Khan he needs space to work.

        Kell doesnt enjoy pressure

        Carson Jones gave all kinds of problems to Kell Brook. I'm sure Chris Algieri is a better boxer than Carson Jones

        Chris is big, he looked huge in there last night, and he keeps coming forwards like the terminator

        Chris Algieri is a hell of a lot better fight than old man Rios.

        Although coming off 2 losses, u are right, maybe not a good look for Kell right now
        He would. Easily. Then you would see the difference between Kell Brook a full 147 lber and guys like Provo who's not that technically sound and a fading Pacquiao - who even managed to hurt him bad. And Khan of course.

        I'm telling you, Brook would beat him and stop him before the half way point. Just too much of everything for Algieri.

        like the terminator. Which terminator?

        Kell Brook does enjoy pressure though - that's what makes him fight better. We've seen that against Matthew Hatton, Shawn Porter and Carson Jones in the first six/seven rounds and in their second fight. Algieri would be better off trying to run around the ring than putting pressure on Brook. Then he might last a couple of extra rounds - either way he'd be going down.

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          #14
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          He would. Easily. Then you would see the difference between Kell Brook a full 147 lber and guys like Provo who's not that technically sound and a fading Pacquiao - who even managed to hurt him bad. And Khan of course.

          I'm telling you, Brook would beat him and stop him before the half way point. Just too much of everything for Algieri.

          like the terminator. Which terminator?

          Kell Brook does enjoy pressure though - that's what makes him fight better. We've seen that against Matthew Hatton, Shawn Porter and Carson Jones in the first six/seven rounds and in their second fight. Algieri would be better off trying to run around the ring than putting pressure on Brook. Then he might last a couple of extra rounds - either way he'd be going down.
          Povo hits harder than Kell, lets be honest here, guy has brute force power.

          Algieri fought a ****** fight against Pov, even though he won, he could have made it a lot easier on himself, but thats what you get when ur trained by a Christian Evangelist

          I think Chris Algieri would give Kell a good fight, he's strong, athletic, good chin, reach, heart. Maybe down the line, it makes a good fight, common opponents, and Algieri further continues to increase his profile around the world

          I think Brook will win, UD.

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            #15
            Originally posted by LacedUp


            Let me break it down for you dear.. Brook fights Gavin 8 weeks after he fought his mandatory for a stay busy fight. The only other option for this fight was Chaves - and whether you like it or not, Gavin makes a lot more sense than Chaves + he's also highly rated in the IBF which means Brook eliminates the chance of fighting him as a mandatory in the future should that be the case.

            Oh, and let's look at WHY Brook is fighting Gavin. A certain someone was offered to fight Brook in June at Wembley for 4x the money he made yesterday, but was turned down. Instead Brook set up a date in August to face Marquez or Rios or someone else - choosing to fight Gavin in the meantime because he's been inactive since being stabbed in the leg.

            Seriously.
            I don't defend Khan by any means because he dodged the Brook fight but let's not think that Brook haven't got another choice than Gavin.
            Also, why is Gavin making more sense than Chavez? Because Chavez isn't British? At least he is on the ring magazine's top 10 and Gavin is really far from that. But okay, it was just a sideline because I don't want to accuse Brook to duck Chavez, lol. I don't think that he is afraid of Chavez. I also don't think that Brook afraid of x and y but I feel the same what I feel with Haymon fighters namely that he hasn't got the control over his opponent choices but his promoter/manager (in this case the promoter) choose instead of him and he chose Gavin... So if you see me criticizing Brook's opponent choosing that you can translate to an Eddie Hearn critic.

            Wasn't Bradley or Thurman (don't say his injury he will fight on the 20th of June, and nobody forced Brook to fight n this exact date) available for example? Yes they were but the opponent is Gavin. And after that he wants Rios, of course just if Brook doesn't get a Mayweather, Pac or Khan fight (the big money fights) but I don't think that he will get them now. Probably down the road there will be a Khan-Brook showdown though but not now.
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              #16
              Originally posted by FrankieBruno
              Povo hits harder than Kell, lets be honest here, guy has brute force power.

              Algieri fought a ****** fight against Pov, even though he won, he could have made it a lot easier on himself, but thats what you get when ur trained by a Christian Evangelist

              I think Chris Algieri would give Kell a good fight, he's strong, athletic, good chin, reach, heart. Maybe down the line, it makes a good fight, common opponents, and Algieri further continues to increase his profile around the world

              I think Brook will win, UD.
              I don't think he does and I also don't think he has brutal power. As in his best win is Mike Alvarado. Good win, but he'd alreay been stopped before and since. Brook has legit welterweight power. He's not a freakish puncher, but he'll get you out of there. You saw how he made Porter's knees buckle and make him do a little silly dance in the first round of their fight. He's got power.

              Listen, Algieri kind of made me a little fan yesterday night. I've always liked him, just never thought he was very good and didn't understand why he'd run all night when he's so big. Dude needs to fight like Tommy Hearns

              Yeah, sure it'd be a good interim fight for Kell at some point. But Algieri needs to get 2-3 solid wins under his belt now before stepping up in class again.

              He should try and get a John Molina or a Zab Judah or Diego Chaves or Devon Alexander before stepping in again with an elite welterweight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by HEND
                I don't defend Khan by any means because he dodged the Brook fight but let's not think that Brook haven't got another choice than Gavin.
                Also, why is Gavin making more sense than Chavez? Because Chavez isn't British? At least he is on the ring magazine's top 10 and Gavin is really far from that. But okay, it was just a sideline because I don't want to accuse Brook to duck Chavez, lol. I don't think that he is afraid of Chavez. I also don't think that Brook afraid of x and y but I feel the same what I feel with Haymon fighters namely that he hasn't got the control over his opponent choices but his promoter/manager (in this case the promoter) choose instead of him and he chose Gavin... So if you see me criticizing Brook's opponent choosing that you can translate to an Eddie Hearn critic.

                Wasn't Bradley or Thurman (don't say his injury he will fight on the 20th of June, and nobody forced Brook to fight n this exact date) available for example? Yes they were but the opponent is Gavin. And after that he wants Rios, of course just if Brook doesn't get a Mayweather, Pac or Khan fight (the big money fights) but I don't think that he will get them now. Probably down the road there will be a Khan-Brook showdown though but not now.
                Yes because he's not British and nobody knows who the *** he is in Britain. On top 10? What for? Getting DQd by Rios? Getting KTFO in a good effort vs Thurman? Robbing Bradley of a clear win? Chaves is not a top 10 fighter in the WW division. Not in this world. Add to that, he's a complete unknown and has a style that would guarantee an ugly as hell fight.

                Hardly the way to sell a PPV fight, wouldn't you say?

                That's fine, I think everybody knows Brook would fight anyone. Hearn has to make decisions and there's no way Brook vs Chaves would headline PPV in the UK. No way. Hell, Brook vs Gavin is a hard sell as it is!

                Thurman couldn't be made because Brook needs to build his name in the UK and Thurman needs to build his in the US. That fight will happen, don't worry about that - but it doesn't make sense right now and certainly not as a stay busy fight.

                Bradley had another date - and they will most likely fight in March 2016 anyway, when the new mandatory is due.

                Brook vs Marquez was the fight they originally wanted for August in the UK. But then Marquez ***ed his knee and retired or some sht and they had to go with the next available option.

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