Comments Thread For: Cortez: No Rematch, Mayweather-Pacquiao Wasn't Close

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • The Big Dunn
    Undisputed Champion
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Sep 2009
    • 70404
    • 9,989
    • 8,241
    • 287,568

    #41
    Originally posted by lacson
    Actually what we saw was the brilliant manhandling of a runner by a basically one armed fighter. Even #65's cornerman told him he was fighting scared. #65's father basically saw him losing the fight after the 4th round, told him to stop fighting scared.

    #65's dad and uncle knows what was going on.
    A fighter's trainer trying to motivate him is not a measure of the fight. Floyd Sr. said he thought the judges were scoring the crowd reaction, he was wrong.

    Manny just didn't show up to win. He knew he couldn't beat Floyd so he took the money and then made excuses when fans asked how come he looked so bad against Floyd.

    But hey, I get it. You love Manny and can't admit he isn't as good as Floyd and he lost by a fairly wide margin.

    Too bad Manny didn't fight as hard iin the fight as his fans do on NSB.

    Comment

    • RED REP
      LEFT HOOK FROM HELL
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • May 2015
      • 1397
      • 72
      • 2
      • 7,879

      #42
      Originally posted by lacson
      So all those fans in the arena who cheered the winner and booed the loser are all mentally ill? I watched the fight and I know it wasn't an illusion when I heard the cheering for #48 and the booing at #65. Unless you heard something different when you were watching it. Obviously you need to convince yourself not to believe what you were hearing at the end of the fight.

      And what about the rest of the world that thought it was a robbery? All mentally ill as well?
      Yes. All mentally ill. Basically.

      Comment

      • Johnny2x2x
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Aug 2013
        • 2291
        • 276
        • 44
        • 18,765

        #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        A fighter's trainer trying to motivate him is not a measure of the fight. Floyd Sr. said he thought the judges were scoring the crowd reaction, he was wrong.

        Manny just didn't show up to win. He knew he couldn't beat Floyd so he took the money and then made excuses when fans asked how come he looked so bad against Floyd.

        But hey, I get it. You love Manny and can't admit he isn't as good as Floyd and he lost by a fairly wide margin.

        Too bad Manny didn't fight as hard iin the fight as his fans do on NSB.
        I've watched the fight a few times now too, and it looks easier and easier for Floyd each time, when first scoring the fight live I had it 10-2, but though 1 or 2 more rounds were relatively close. When watching it again, 10-2 is the worst case, and 11-1 is more likely than 9-3. Floyd landed the more effective punches in the 6th even though Manny got him on the ropes once.

        Even one of the official scorers who had it 8-4 is quoted as saying that when he watched it on tape 2 of the rounds he gave to Manny he should have probably given to Mayweather. It was an easy fight for Mayweather and a very easy fight to score. And it was also a fairly good fight, I think people were expecting Manny to try to turn it into a brawl and when he didn't they said it was boring.

        Comment

        • AllBoxingAD
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Sep 2011
          • 2714
          • 136
          • 1
          • 56,424

          #44
          Originally posted by matt22
          You know what the fight was actually pretty close. I think the reason Floyd won is because Manny did not fight his fight. He didn't come in on his toes and throwing many punches. Obviously, the ref and judges came in with their biases which gave Floyd the win. I think Floyd won - it was close - but it was Manny's fault for not fighting like Manny for whatever reason.
          The problem with that argument is that even when Pac did throw, Floyd made him miss.

          So throwing more doesnt mean much when you cant connect.

          Comment

          • twosweethooks
            Undisputed Champion
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Mar 2010
            • 6966
            • 245
            • 0
            • 21,436

            #45
            Lets be truthful gents, boys and scumbags,

            Old Fair but Firm, adored Jr and protected him in the ring:

            Remember Hatton, he was jumping in there before they got tangled and the chicken chasing was hot that night !!!!

            Ortiz ? Sad Ref, sad, but you got to hand it to him he love good old JR. Didn't say a word to Jr for the nice CHEAP SHOT.

            So there was no doubt going into the fight with Pac how he would feel. Shaw , Jr couldn't have been put on his butt and Cortez would have help Jr up and give him a min to clear his head.

            Jr lost 7 to 5, no doubt. Pac won the nice chicken chaser.

            I watched the first two rounds in slow mo and started to Laugh, hahahahaha

            Jr was JERKY, Pac was deliberate, JR HUGGED a lot, hahahahaha, then the chicken got revved up .

            Mancini and JMM got it RIGHT yesterday, somebody ought to pay them for telling the truth hahahahhaha, its really funny.

            Ten floyd fans on here are insane to think Jr won this fight easily.

            Mancini really got it right when he said Leonard would whup this guy, Leonard wouldn't let you leave the ring without getting a real whuppin or getting KO'd. This guy, will NEVER engage, if there was EVER a time in HISTORY to throw down instead of running it was MAY 2 which will go down in INFAMY !!!!!

            JMM bless his heart, Had the CHEAT of the CENTURY PUT ON HIM hahahahahaha,,,,,,,LMAO !!!!!!! OUTLOUD !!!!! and he had to eat it hahaha brought up from a fat 130 to Jr 's CHEAT on the weight to make sure he could whup the little guy, hahahahahaa

            Any yall call Jr great hahahhahh

            OK, I will say this, he is the quickest Chicken I ever saw JERK, got them Jerky moves mang hahahahaha

            Comment

            • RED REP
              LEFT HOOK FROM HELL
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • May 2015
              • 1397
              • 72
              • 2
              • 7,879

              #46
              Originally posted by twosweethooks
              Lets be truthful gents, boys and scumbags,

              Old Fair but Firm, adored Jr and protected him in the ring:

              Remember Hatton, he was jumping in there before they got tangled and the chicken chasing was hot that night !!!!

              Ortiz ? Sad Ref, sad, but you got to hand it to him he love good old JR. Didn't say a word to Jr for the nice CHEAP SHOT.

              So there was no doubt going into the fight with Pac how he would feel. Shaw , Jr couldn't have been put on his butt and Cortez would have help Jr up and give him a min to clear his head.

              Jr lost 7 to 5, no doubt. Pac won the nice chicken chaser.

              I watched the first two rounds in slow mo and started to Laugh, hahahahaha

              Jr was JERKY, Pac was deliberate, JR HUGGED a lot, hahahahaha, then the chicken got revved up .

              Mancini and JMM got it RIGHT yesterday, somebody ought to pay them for telling the truth hahahahhaha, its really funny.

              Ten floyd fans on here are insane to think Jr won this fight easily.

              Mancini really got it right when he said Leonard would whup this guy, Leonard wouldn't let you leave the ring without getting a real whuppin or getting KO'd. This guy, will NEVER engage, if there was EVER a time in HISTORY to throw down instead of running it was MAY 2 which will go down in INFAMY !!!!!

              JMM bless his heart, Had the CHEAT of the CENTURY PUT ON HIM hahahahahaha,,,,,,,LMAO !!!!!!! OUTLOUD !!!!! and he had to eat it hahaha brought up from a fat 130 to Jr 's CHEAT on the weight to make sure he could whup the little guy, hahahahahaa

              Any yall call Jr great hahahhahh

              OK, I will say this, he is the quickest Chicken I ever saw JERK, got them Jerky moves mang hahahahaha
              Lmao. That's a lot of effort to effectively make yourself look like a clueless fanboy haha.

              Comment

              • Hype job
                Undisputed Champion
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Oct 2014
                • 10667
                • 728
                • 1,404
                • 43,949

                #47
                I'm going to rewatch it sometime, either today or tomorrow and give an objective analysis.

                On mute of course, people underestimate how bad commentary sways peoples perceptions.

                Sky Sports commentators made it seem like Groves was "Gatting" Froch for most of the fight.

                Comment

                • MRCHOKEaMF
                  Banned
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2539
                  • 131
                  • 6
                  • 2,780

                  #48
                  Originally posted by twosweethooks
                  Lets be truthful gents, boys and scumbags,

                  Old Fair but Firm, adored Jr and protected him in the ring:

                  Remember Hatton, he was jumping in there before they got tangled and the chicken chasing was hot that night !!!!

                  Ortiz ? Sad Ref, sad, but you got to hand it to him he love good old JR. Didn't say a word to Jr for the nice CHEAP SHOT.

                  So there was no doubt going into the fight with Pac how he would feel. Shaw , Jr couldn't have been put on his butt and Cortez would have help Jr up and give him a min to clear his head.

                  Jr lost 7 to 5, no doubt. Pac won the nice chicken chaser.

                  I watched the first two rounds in slow mo and started to Laugh, hahahahaha

                  Jr was JERKY, Pac was deliberate, JR HUGGED a lot, hahahahaha, then the chicken got revved up .

                  Mancini and JMM got it RIGHT yesterday, somebody ought to pay them for telling the truth hahahahhaha, its really funny.

                  Ten floyd fans on here are insane to think Jr won this fight easily.

                  Mancini really got it right when he said Leonard would whup this guy, Leonard wouldn't let you leave the ring without getting a real whuppin or getting KO'd. This guy, will NEVER engage, if there was EVER a time in HISTORY to throw down instead of running it was MAY 2 which will go down in INFAMY !!!!!

                  JMM bless his heart, Had the CHEAT of the CENTURY PUT ON HIM hahahahahaha,,,,,,,LMAO !!!!!!! OUTLOUD !!!!! and he had to eat it hahaha brought up from a fat 130 to Jr 's CHEAT on the weight to make sure he could whup the little guy, hahahahahaa

                  Any yall call Jr great hahahhahh

                  OK, I will say this, he is the quickest Chicken I ever saw JERK, got them Jerky moves mang hahahahaha
                  I just saw your name and figured I'd take a another victory lap! He got schooled. He was slower, didnt have any fight, couldnt duck a right hand or check hook. He's just a HYPE JOB! He got thoroughly EXPOSED!

                  Comment

                  • matt22
                    Contender
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 129
                    • 13
                    • 0
                    • 6,186

                    #49
                    Before any fights starts I normally like one fighter over the other but not always. But I make it a general rule to score each round objectively. This helps me sleep at night knowing I was honest. Now, in my humble opinion the Pac/Mayweather fight was a very boring one where not a lot happened during the fight. It seemed like it was a sparring match but I think that both fighters had immense resepect for one another. Now if you judged the fight 11-1 then really you were coming in to each round with the preconceived notion that Floyd will win. If you scored the fight 9-3 then you gave all the close rounds to Mayweather. It is the problem with extreme fans they cannot be objective. Look, I have said many times that I am not an extreme fan. But objectively now why is it that Floyd has won all the close fights in his career (Judah, Castillo, Pacquiao, Maidana, De la Hoya, Cotto etc.) I mean every fighter has lost or been robbed a little I mean it is not like Floyd is humiliating his fighters. I guess there is something that Floyd does that the judges like. For instance, I think Floyd is the master of keeping rounds close. I think that he has ingrained in the judge's heads coming in that Floyd wins close rounds. Or there is something shady here. I find it strange that great fighters have been robbed and have robbed themselves. This does not happen to Floyd which I find strange. Not that I care if he wins or loses I couldn't care less.

                    Comment

                    • marcogman
                      Contender
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 109
                      • 10
                      • 0
                      • 6,197

                      #50
                      Damn Cortez, what kind s#it you smoking now...

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP