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  • Rudiamonds
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    #1

    Anyone noticing that

    Anyone noticing that since PCB came to prime time we got alot more competitive matches resulting in alot of Haymon fighters losing

    BOTH derrells lost
    quillin fights to a draw
    Adonis didnt impress and got crap ratings
    Garcia looked trashed against peter
    Broner was boring


    Do ya think pbc going the haymon wanted or is it still to early?
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    He's had some fights that went against his "A" guys but none of those are all that crushing to them. Porter v Broner is huge, they need Broner to win that one

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      I just posted something similiAr to this in the "What did you score Dirrell / Degeale " thread.

      I don't think the 4 organizations are going to be handing over their belts over to PBC fighters when they fight non PBC fighters unless it's by a KO or clear win. I think this is because the PBC is forming their own belt so they are getting the shaft from the other Belts.

      The rest of the fights that have been on PBC I think are between PBC fighters so Haymon I don't think he cares who wins because he benifits either way and the scoring has been surprisingly fair.

      But look at the 3 title fights between PBC vs non PBC fighters for belts Usually the fighter with the host promotion gets the benifit of doubt that's the way it's been in close fights , PBC fighters aren't getting that

      Quillen / Lee was a joke IMO , clear W for Quillen he gets a draw , Lee pretty much admitted defeat . A judge scored it 9-9 when Quillen got a KD when was the last time that happend. Good fight Quillen with the 2 KD and the work he put in clearly won. Add to that the WBO is suing Haymon is it really a suprise Lee went home with the belt.

      Kamade/ McDonnell close fight I didnt score it but Kameda with a KD Appeared to do enough to usually get the W

      Dirrell / Degeale close fight I Scored it for Direll don't think Degeale did enough from the 5th round on , I'm cool with the decision but 117-112 scorecard come on man.

      I expect PBC belts sooner than Later because it seems the organizations are putting the screws to PBC fighters.

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        #4
        Originally posted by R_Walken
        I just posted something similiAr to this in the "What did you score Dirrell / Degeale " thread.

        I don't think the 4 organizations are going to be handing over their belts over to PBC fighters when they fight non PBC fighters unless it's by a KO or clear win. I think this is because the PBC is forming their own belt so they are getting the shaft from the other Belts.

        The rest of the fights that have been on PBC I think are between PBC fighters so Haymon I don't think he cares who wins because he benifits either way and the scoring has been surprisingly fair.

        But look at the 3 title fights between PBC vs non PBC fighters for belts Usually the fighter with the host promotion gets the benifit of doubt that's the way it's been in close fights , PBC fighters aren't getting that

        Quillen / Lee was a joke IMO , clear W for Quillen he gets a draw , Lee pretty much admitted defeat . A judge scored it 9-9 when Quillen got a KD when was the last time that happend. Good fight Quillen with the 2 KD and the work he put in clearly won. Add to that the WBO is suing Haymon is it really a suprise Lee went home with the belt.

        Kamade/ McDonnell close fight I didnt score it but Kameda with a KD Appeared to do enough to usually get the W

        Dirrell / Degeale close fight I Scored it for Direll don't think Degeale did enough from the 5th round on , I'm cool with the decision but 117-112 scorecard come on man.

        I expect PBC belts sooner than Later because it seems the organizations are putting the screws to PBC fighters.
        I can definitely see that but all three decisions have been somewhat close and its too small of a sample size.

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        • R_Walken
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          Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes
          I can definitely see that but all three decisions have been somewhat close and its too small of a sample size.
          Yeah agree it's only 3 fights which have all Been relatively close, it's just a trend I've noticed It'll be interesting how it plays out. In a year I could be spot on about this or I'll look like I wear a tin foil hat

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            I am thrilled that the Dirrell brothers both lost. They have skill but not enough to beat the best. They are very conceited and arrogant and do way too much clinching, holding and wrestling. Andre said Degale did nothing but run. Degale knocked him down twice and won the 11th and 12th rounds by throwing and landing more punches so he did more than just run. Degale did enough to win in Dirrell's backyard and Dirrell is a poor sport and a crybaby just as he was after his lost to Froch.

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              I'm just happy the decisions are fair.

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                #8
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                I am thrilled that the Dirrell brothers both lost. They have skill but not enough to beat the best. They are very conceited and arrogant and do way too much clinching, holding and wrestling. Andre said Degale did nothing but run. Degale knocked him down twice and won the 11th and 12th rounds by throwing and landing more punches so he did more than just run. Degale did enough to win in Dirrell's backyard and Dirrell is a poor sport and a crybaby just as he was after his lost to Froch.
                A Pactrash fan should not call ANYBODY a poor sport and a cry baby.


                Pactrashers are the most delusional and hypocritical of them all.

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                  Originally posted by PBP
                  I'm just happy the decisions are fair.
                  This. Not a single robbery. That would kill pbc more than any mismatch or boring fight. People were already crying how they're gonna rob degale and Guerrero ect. Unknown badu jack even got the win

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                    It's good that he's finally letting them step it up. Credit where credit is due.

                    And now pretty obvious he had a long term plan for this while he was bleeding Golden Boy/Showtime dry. I just wish they'd use more conventional boxing production instead of the gameshow feel.

                    A judge scored it 9-9 when Quillen got a KD when was the last time that happend.
                    Happens all the time man. Less often in big fights I guess but less experienced fighters win a round then get caught in it and wind up 9-9 quite frequently.

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