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Do You Think Manny Pacquiao Ever Becomes P4P # 1 Again?

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  • #51
    Originally posted by Beercules View Post
    Why bring Ariza when you have Gavin?
    Nah bro, Ariza has the magic. This is the pro level. Cotto needs Memo or Ariza asap if he wants to attain ATG status.


    A little help goes a long way in this modern era.

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    • #52
      He won't. It was an incredible run, record books and all. No one can ever surpass. Everything post Margarito was icing on the cake. Floyd fight 6 years ago would have been the greatest win since the Featherweight days. But that doesn't matter, his legacy was set even without Floyd. Post Margarito he was on the downslide, he was far from the typhoon that swept the divisions. Floyd fought him at the right time for Floyd. Fought a one armed faded fighter and still looked bad being declared winner. No credit for that. Pac who fought superbly technical won't get the judges nod because that's not what he was remembered for. Judges only gave rounds to Pacman when he resembled his 2009-2010 form, not when he was being technical. P4P Pacquiao, Armstrong, and SRR is what it's about.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer View Post
        He won't. It was an incredible run, record books and all. No one can ever surpass. Everything post Margarito was icing on the cake. Floyd fight 6 years ago would have been the greatest win since the Featherweight days. But that doesn't matter, his legacy was set even without Floyd. Post Margarito he was on the downslide, he was far from the typhoon that swept the divisions. Floyd fought him at the right time for Floyd. Fought a one armed faded fighter and still looked bad being declared winner. No credit for that. Pac who fought superbly technical won't get the judges nod because that's not what he was remembered for. Judges only gave rounds to Pacman when he resembled his 2009-2010 form, not when he was being technical. P4P Pacquiao, Armstrong, and SRR is what it's about.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by PeasantCrusha View Post
          Nah bro, Ariza has the magic. This is the pro level. Cotto needs Memo or Ariza asap if he wants to attain ATG status.


          A little help goes a long way in this modern era.
          Manny with Memo...






          I like it

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          • #55
            f#ck no. tim bradley, his best win in years, has looked like garbage lately.

            joel diaz is on record in an interview saying that tim was slurring his speech, getting dropped in sparring by ham and eggers going into the marquez fight.

            those wins are his only significant wins in years. the first fight, technically loss, was a good win. prior to that manny looked old and won a controversial decision over marquez. after the first bradley fight, manny was knocked out by marquez. fought rios in a comeback. fought chris freaking algieri.


            bradley wins were overrated, particularly bradley 2. ruslan may have ruined tim bradley.


            manny was an overestimated p4p fighter prior to the mayweather fight. he'll never be an elite p4p fighter again.

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            • #56
              If not for may weather being retired all of 08, PAC would have never even been considered to top the mythical rankings.

              Floyd came back in 09 and schooled the same Marquez PAC couldn't beat clearly one time.... Also after a 22 month lay off.... Manny never was p4p number 1

              IMO he never was number 1 p4p...ward had a good claim during Manny's run from 09-12...ward cleaned his division had wins over kessler, green, abraham, froch, etc...during those years Manny got a gift in his third fight with jmm, karma returned he lost to Bradley, and he got ktfo in '12.

              All the hoopla came from winning titles in 8 classes....you can't ignore he fought in so Many weight classes and didn't defend his titles very much or fight many good fighters after career defining wins. He fought cotto, Mosley, dlh, and margarito all after looking unimpressive.


              Manny is a great fighter who the media wanted to be the greatest thing since sliced bread all the while he was one of the best of his era, he never was the best

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              • #57
                Nah,, #48 is old news son

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                • #58
                  meanwhile Ring Magazine columnists think, ''damn, I guess being in the ring and understanding Floyd's defense does make a difference. we honestly thought Pac was the best and could beat Floyd...god why does it always have to be a black guy...shucks''

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                  • #59
                    Pretty sure if by the end of 2016 Khan beats Floyd once or twice & Pacquiao beats Crawford and Khan then he could easily be #1 again.

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                    • #60
                      Hmm, interesting thoughts here. I agree with the overall sentiment in this thread... Manny's best days are behind him. I honestly think the Margarito fight took something out of him as well and the fourth Marquez fight definitely took the rest.

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