Comments Thread For: Roy Jones Jr: Pacquiao's Mistake Was Blaming Injury

[IR0NFIST]

Dude, stop it.

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Reality is beginning to sink in for the Fraud Jr. fans. They built a sanctuary on false perceptions, and now it's slowly being deconstructed right before their fragile minds.

[Cinci Champ]

Roy Jones Jr, is right. Pac would have been much better off never saying anything about the shoulder.

BUT HIND SIGHT IS WHAT ? Its greater because it is REVEALED UNCHANGEABLE TRUTH !!!!!! So,,ah,,,,,DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but he's right anyway.

He was right about May Jr. He knew like most of knew that JR would RUN and run he did !!!!! He thru pitty pat shots that would tickle a grandmaw, then about JUMPED like a SPIDER was on him all across the nice ring to get away from that BADDDDDDDDDDDD spider about to git em.

He was right about Pac's shoulder that it certainly did affect Pac, HOW COULD IT NOT AFFECT ANYBODY !!!!! IF it was Joe LOUIS, if it was JOHN L SULLIVAN, if it was JACK DEMPSEY, if it were SONNY LISTON 7th round Clay fight, Robinson, Leonard, Duran , Hearns, Hagler, GGG, Mayweather, you get the drift ???? ANYBODY Is ANYBODY.

Pac should have just KEPT it QUITE, but thats hind sight.

HE can't turn it around and change it back. Now Pac has to take what is out there and what is coming and I think it will blow over.

This is not the first Rodeo boxing has gone thru.

You can go back to the Jack Johnson days to see Corruption in boxing and it has THRIVED !!!!

Boxing will get thru the Mayweather ERA of ballerina vs Chicken chasers, and fans of the like will be mute in a few years and fade away because OLD TIME boxing will always PREVAIL.

You know ,,,,hahahah,,, the Call to Arms , whose really the best, and to find out two great men will collide in the ring under rules and the crowd will roar, some will moan but a VICTOR will have his hand Raised and it won't be a chicken.

there is one thing everyone is forgetting. going into the fight pac shoulder felt 100% which has been stated by arum pac roach and konsz all said he was punching hard with his right hand and any pain was gone its just they dont want to admit this part of it cause then it looks even more fishy. they are saying he had a partial tear before fight which healed up and felt fine going into the fight. then he tweaked it by punching air all night but bottom line is pac looked like a fool the way he went about the post fight presser fan of pac or not u guys should realize all that was is to keep pac fans on the hes the guy to beat mayweather bandwagon so they can sell more ppv. as u guys and everyone else knows pac made his career off being the great hope of the guy who could beat floyd now that people realize its not the case even tho floyd is 38 they have to think of something pr wise for one cause his political career is based off being a winner and 2 because he sells himself as the great hope of beating mayweather. PERIOD

[matt22]

First, of all are trying to forward your US exceptionalism saying that Peruvian scorecards are inferior? Second I also gave a Colombian and Dominican example so please mention that also. These are only three examples I am sure there are many many more in Europe country by country. I don't have all day to look at others I happened to come across these three examples. Second, race plays an important role in American society and I think that I make a valid point. Look all I am saying is that it was a closer fight and if you move away from the US angle and look at the fight globally you see a clearer and fairer representation of the fight. IT WAS A CLOSE FIGHT. The way I see it is a domino effect and the masses follow: Showtime broadcasters viewed the fight as a one sided affair so the media follows this narrative (ESPN, Yahoo, Sports Illustrated etc. CNN etc.) because they do not want to question its legitimacy. Why should a journalist question the spectacle? Put his job on the line? You think Rafael is going to give up his house in ******ia and the endless coupons to the Chinese buffet line. NO WAY! So this narrative catches steam and it captures the popular imagination of the masses. But what you fail to understand is that it took the paying off of two men : Roy Jones and the biased Sky broadcasters to full off the illusion that Floyd won. Arum could have participated in this imagined illusion of Mayweather's greatness against Pacman by reversing the tide and paying off the commentators but he chose not to. After the consensus is formed and Floyd is deemed the winner in a fabulous display of boxing and "whooping" Pacman we are now in the midst of greatness but it's all an illusion. You my friend are used instrumentally to disseminate the illusion that Floyd whooped the Pacman completing the designed plan from above Haymon (most likely those controlling Haymon). You my friend and others are the last piece of the puzzle (the masses) to disseminate the lie and make Floyd richer but really those behind Floyd really richer. The sad part is you really don't gain much from defending the illusion but if you wake up and question it using your own analytics and go beyond the design that was set which you so obviously fell right into.

[matt22]

Blaming race and bringing up preuvian scorecards?

Absolutely pathetic. Its almost like you pac fans have scoured the earth to find ANYTHING to make this loss look good.

First, of all are trying to forward your US exceptionalism saying that Peruvian scorecards are inferior? Second I also gave a Colombian and Dominican example so please mention that also. These are only three examples I am sure there are many many more in Europe country by country. I don't have all day to look at others I happened to come across these three examples. Second, race plays an important role in American society and I think that I make a valid point. Look all I am saying is that it was a closer fight and if you move away from the US angle and look at the fight globally you see a clearer and fairer representation of the fight. IT WAS A CLOSE FIGHT. The way I see it is a domino effect and the masses follow: Showtime broadcasters viewed the fight as a one sided affair so the media follows this narrative (ESPN, Yahoo, Sports Illustrated etc. CNN etc.) because they do not want to question its legitimacy. Why should a journalist question the spectacle? Put his job on the line? You think Rafael is going to give up his house in ******ia and the endless coupons to the Chinese buffet line. NO WAY! So this narrative catches steam and it captures the popular imagination of the masses. But what you fail to understand is that it took the paying off of two men : Roy Jones and the biased Sky broadcasters to full off the illusion that Floyd won. Arum could have participated in this imagined illusion of Mayweather's greatness against Pacman by reversing the tide and paying off the commentators but he chose not to. After the consensus is formed and Floyd is deemed the winner in a fabulous display of boxing and "whooping" Pacman we are now in the midst of greatness but it's all an illusion. You my friend are used instrumentally to disseminate the illusion that Floyd whooped the Pacman completing the designed plan from above Haymon (most likely those controlling Haymon). You my friend and others are the last piece of the puzzle (the masses) to disseminate the lie and make Floyd richer but really those behind Floyd really richer. The sad part is you really don't gain much from defending the illusion but if you wake up and question it using your own analytics and go beyond the design that was set which you so obviously fell right into.

[Boxing Goat]

Pretty much say its a legit injury.

The fact that Roy knows it was an injury before stepping in the ring. Tells us Pac wasn't fighting at full strength. He really was nursing a shoulder pain throughout the fight.

To some, Pac should have postponed the fight. The thing is 5 years he has been chasing Floyd and to give Floyd an out or a excuse for this fight not to happen wasn't an option Pac is willing to take.

And besides, 3 weeks before he was diagnosed with severe rotator cuff tear, the doctor advised surgery. So if he was to under go surgery, he will have to postpone a Floyd fight for at least 1 year. I don't think boxing fans will like that much wait when it's been 5 years of struggle already. It's not like it was a 1 or 2 month postponement. Surgery was needed. It will take a year. Pac was left to manup with all the circumstances that was in front of him.

The world was watching. Tickets were sold, celebrity booked there flights. Networks from around the world have close the deals for satellite coverage. There was no one stopping this train. Pac had no choice but to manup.

Roy was disappointed coz the viewers purchased a product that they expected to be @ 100%. That is understandable.

This only shows FLoyd won against a handicapped Pac who was @ the most 50% of his capability knowing his rotator cuff injury on his right shoulder prevented pac from using his right hand effectively.. Not to mention the unprecedented 13x blood drawn in a span of 2 months. While an average olympianis tested 3x in a year pac had to be blood drawn 13x in a window of 2 months. Red flag. Nsac, confiscating his vitamins and water before the fight, when obviously there was ped testing already and cheating wont happen with usada testing in place. Pac wasnt treated right. Pac was being treated unjustly and he felt like speaking up.. I can understand were he was coming from.

But in all this drama he still showed how great he was. He handled Floyd with one hand and to many people saw him winning. That's atg material right there.

Legendary post, great job!!!!!!

All the truth. Manny would have been fine had he just been able to use the numbing shot as planned. NSAC messed up and they admit it with the chairmen already stepping down.

Anyone on here would have went through with the fight in a no-win situation just like Pacquiao did. If you say different then you are a liar.

[El Jesus]

First, of all are trying to forward your US exceptionalism saying that Peruvian scorecards are inferior? Second I also gave a Colombian and Dominican example so please mention that also. These are only three examples I am sure there are many many more in Europe country by country. I don't have all day to look at others I happened to come across these three examples. Second, race plays an important role in American society and I think that I make a valid point. Look all I am saying is that it was a closer fight and if you move away from the US angle and look at the fight globally you see a clearer and fairer representation of the fight. IT WAS A CLOSE FIGHT. The way I see it is a domino effect and the masses follow: Showtime broadcasters viewed the fight as a one sided affair so the media follows this narrative (ESPN, Yahoo, Sports Illustrated etc. CNN etc.) because they do not want to question its legitimacy. Why should a journalist question the spectacle? Put his job on the line? You think Rafael is going to give up his house in ******ia and the endless coupons to the Chinese buffet line. NO WAY! So this narrative catches steam and it captures the popular imagination of the masses. But what you fail to understand is that it took the paying off of two men : Roy Jones and the biased Sky broadcasters to full off the illusion that Floyd won. Arum could have participated in this imagined illusion of Mayweather's greatness against Pacman by reversing the tide and paying off the commentators but he chose not to. After the consensus is formed and Floyd is deemed the winner in a fabulous display of boxing and "whooping" Pacman we are now in the midst of greatness but it's all an illusion. You my friend are used instrumentally to disseminate the illusion that Floyd whooped the Pacman completing the designed plan from above Haymon (most likely those controlling Haymon). You my friend and others are the last piece of the puzzle (the masses) to disseminate the lie and make Floyd richer but really those behind Floyd really richer. The sad part is you really don't gain much from defending the illusion but if you wake up and question it using your own analytics and go beyond the design that was set which you so obviously fell right into.

youre writing all that nonsense to defend a fighter who was dominated, a fight that ended 2 weeks ago. Trying to bring up some hilarious semantically flawed argument that questions my intelligence when at the end of the day it comes down to one thing

Your hero lost and Mayweather is 48-0. If that makes me a dumb drone of a human being than so be it.

[matt22]

Please do not use words you do not understand. I don't have any heroes. Heroes are for losers.

[IR0NFIST]

First, of all are trying to forward your US exceptionalism saying that Peruvian scorecards are inferior? Second I also gave a Colombian and Dominican example so please mention that also. These are only three examples I am sure there are many many more in Europe country by country. I don't have all day to look at others I happened to come across these three examples. Second, race plays an important role in American society and I think that I make a valid point. Look all I am saying is that it was a closer fight and if you move away from the US angle and look at the fight globally you see a clearer and fairer representation of the fight. IT WAS A CLOSE FIGHT. The way I see it is a domino effect and the masses follow: Showtime broadcasters viewed the fight as a one sided affair so the media follows this narrative (ESPN, Yahoo, Sports Illustrated etc. CNN etc.) because they do not want to question its legitimacy. Why should a journalist question the spectacle? Put his job on the line? You think Rafael is going to give up his house in ******ia and the endless coupons to the Chinese buffet line. NO WAY! So this narrative catches steam and it captures the popular imagination of the masses. But what you fail to understand is that it took the paying off of two men : Roy Jones and the biased Sky broadcasters to full off the illusion that Floyd won. Arum could have participated in this imagined illusion of Mayweather's greatness against Pacman by reversing the tide and paying off the commentators but he chose not to. After the consensus is formed and Floyd is deemed the winner in a fabulous display of boxing and "whooping" Pacman we are now in the midst of greatness but it's all an illusion. You my friend are used instrumentally to disseminate the illusion that Floyd whooped the Pacman completing the designed plan from above Haymon (most likely those controlling Haymon). You my friend and others are the last piece of the puzzle (the masses) to disseminate the lie and make Floyd richer but really those behind Floyd really richer. The sad part is you really don't gain much from defending the illusion but if you wake up and question it using your own analytics and go beyond the design that was set which you so obviously fell right into.

There is a widespread herd-mentality among Fraud Jr. fans. They are not that far removed from the sheep, although some of them do manage to transcend their base natures (emphasis on some).

[Zen_Fighter]

Pac lost. No doubt about it. It wasn't a complete wash out but Floyd was the clear winner. Manny shouldn't be ashamed to say my torn rotator cuff impacted my performance. This reminds me of Nelson versus Fenech I. Nelson won a dubious decision in an a great fight. Nelson said his performance was hampered by an elbow (if my memory is correct) injury. Granted Nelson, won but still claimed an injury impacted his performance. Nelson dominated the rematch.

In no way am I saying Pac won the fight or would dominate in a rematch. I just don't understand the heat Pac is taking. It makes sense if he says I had a bad back, sore muscle, strained calf... whatever. It doesn't bother me if Floyd doesn't give him a rematch. It concerns me that an athlete can't say was injured and it impacted them in a negative way. Pac fans will probably say if he didn't have the injury Pac wins. Floyd fans say it is just an excuse.

Why can't the fans of boxing allow for an injury to be considered in a fighter's performance?

[The Gambler1981]

Like I said there is always a percentage of people who will say the sky is red and grass is purple because that is what they want to believe.

The human brain is a marvelous thing.