Biggest Hyped Fight Disappointment?

[Sweet Jones]

Well it happens so much between the best, who are in the same stage of their careers, that you have to stop blaming them and take a step back and ask why does it happen. I think around 7 out of 10 of these fights where the best fight the best, the reason the fight are dull is because two high level fighters are fighting eachother. I think when the best fight the good or the good fight the bad, or even worse the best fight the worst (of the available opposition), that's when these great KO's are produced. Now you can sit here and mention so many exceptions to put down my theory, but when you do, think about if it really was the best fighting the best in their prime, or if one guy was past his best but was seen as great, and he was fighting another great in a better stage of his career. i.e. Tyson vs Holyfield/Lewis.

Really wish more people understood this.

[Eff Pandas]

I know a lot of people want to believe the Mayweather-Pac fight was real so their universe makes sense but come on, man.

My boxing or boxing fan "universe" making sense has nothing to do with the Floyd vs Manny fight at all lol.

If there has always been corruption in boxing, why then would there not always be dives?

Well sure there has been & is & sadly probably will be corruption in boxing. Hell man Bob Arum had his offices raided iirc over fake fights involving his fighters (although I don't believe it was ever proven, but idr exactly rn) & he was co-promoter of that fight. That sorta stuff happens in the build up to creating names or towards making sure certain guys get to certain fights doe. Once you have got all the money coming your way you don't need to fix anything anymore. If anything you wanna make the fight as good as possible so you can get equal money, give or take, for the rematch.

You can have two guys get in there, stare at each other for twelve rounds and claim they couldn't get going.

I didn't see that. If you don't watch Mayweather fights or just don't like Mayweather's style I can see how you'd not really understand what could happen in that fight or find it unappealing, but thats a long way from a fixed fight. You don't need no slow mo of Floyd vs Manny, just go watch Floyd's last 5 or so fights. This is what he does. He makes guys too careful or nervous about making mistakes with his timing & perhaps the most effective tactic is he decides where the fight will take place at & where it won't.

For 300 million dollars, anyone would take the money and laugh at the fans.

I think you know ****ty people maybe. I think most people would be respectful of the attention they've gotten. I think both fighters were respectful, before, during & after the fight.

Manny's excuses could be something to be critical of, but I find boxers excuses par for the course. Anytime something you didn't want to happen happens its kinda human nature to find reasons it happened besides you weren't good enough to make it happen. Therefore I can't fault Manny doing what 99% of boxers do & what Floyd likely would of done himself if he had lost.

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Klitschko-Haye for me. I had high hopes for it. I always knew that Mayweather-Pacman would suck.

[BrometheusBob.]

I voted May/Pac but I can see a great case for ODLH/Trinidad. Klitschko/Haye is not a bad runner up to these two.

[b00g13man]

So May 2 was a staged fight now huh? That's a new excuse. Some extreme reaching there.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Only total boxing ignorants expected a good action from Manny - Floyd fight...

[Syf]

For me it's either May,Maidana 2 or May,Pac.

The more personal pick is Maidana 2. Over 70 clinches not one warning. Fast breaks was a tool used by Bayless to limit the infighting. Bayless was keeping Mayweather at a distance from Maidana all night. It was blatant. Made me stop watching boxing for a month or so honestly.

But May Pac wins. Mayweather, pac. they were asking for 100 damn dollars for that ppv... the least they could do is not lay an egg.

People need to acknowledge the price of watching these fights in their deliberation. May Pac at 100 bucks wins by far.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

My boxing or boxing fan "universe" making sense has nothing to do with the Floyd vs Manny fight at all lol.



Well sure there has been & is & sadly probably will be corruption in boxing. Hell man Bob Arum had his offices raided iirc over fake fights involving his fighters (although I don't believe it was ever proven, but idr exactly rn) & he was co-promoter of that fight. That sorta stuff happens in the build up to creating names or towards making sure certain guys get to certain fights doe. Once you have got all the money coming your way you don't need to fix anything anymore. If anything you wanna make the fight as good as possible so you can get equal money, give or take, for the rematch.



I didn't see that. If you don't watch Mayweather fights or just don't like Mayweather's style I can see how you'd not really understand what could happen in that fight or find it unappealing, but thats a long way from a fixed fight. You don't need no slow mo of Floyd vs Manny, just go watch Floyd's last 5 or so fights. This is what he does. He makes guys too careful or nervous about making mistakes with his timing & perhaps the most effective tactic is he decides where the fight will take place at & where it won't.



I think you know ****ty people maybe. I think most people would be respectful of the attention they've gotten. I think both fighters were respectful, before, during & after the fight.

Manny's excuses could be something to be critical of, but I find boxers excuses par for the course. Anytime something you didn't want to happen happens its kinda human nature to find reasons it happened besides you weren't good enough to make it happen. Therefore I can't fault Manny doing what 99% of boxers do & what Floyd likely would of done himself if he had lost.

Well the two Clay-Liston fights were garbage and the phantom punch was definitely a dive. Those were also two very big fights. Hopkins' body shot on De La Hoya is very hard to buy and once again, that was a big fight. I don't think most big fights are, but there is definitely a good reason to which is the betting of course. You can't make a lot of money betting on a chump fight after all.

It has nothing to do with me not being a Mayweather fan. His style is boring of course, but in that fight, he really didn't do anything spectacular and neither did Manny. I've seen them both fight much harder and they did little to nothing in there. Neither was hungry for anything in that fight.

I mean, this was a sparring session at best. Pros spar all the time. This was nothing more for them than a glorified workout where they both got rich. I mean, it's a brilliant plan and it worked, but I think you'd have to be naïve to think it was real.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

For me it's either May,Maidana 2 or May,Pac.

The more personal pick is Maidana 2. Over 70 clinches not one warning. Fast breaks was a tool used by Bayless to limit the infighting. Bayless was keeping Mayweather at a distance from Maidana all night. It was blatant. Made me stop watching boxing for a month or so honestly.

But May Pac wins. Mayweather, pac. they were asking for 100 damn dollars for that ppv... the least they could do is not lay an egg.

People need to acknowledge the price of watching these fights in their deliberation. May Pac at 100 bucks wins by far.

I agree. It is definitely the worst by far, especially with the money factored in. It think the fight itself couldn't have been worse. I watched about eight rounds when it was on for free on Youtube like a week later since no one cared that it was free at that point. I considered ordering it for a while, but I'm so glad I saved my money.

[Eff Pandas]

Well the two Clay-Liston fights were garbage and the phantom punch was definitely a dive.

If that fight was a dive the ref, Jersey Joe Walcott iirc was in on it, cuz Liston gets up from his "dive" & continues fighting before Walcott stops it due to a official telling him the 10 count was met or shoulda been met or something like that. Its a weird ass fight no doubt, but most people that say it was fixed have never seen the whole fight & don't even seem to realize Liston got up & the fight went on for a lil bit.

I've seen them both fight much harder and they did little to nothing in there. Neither was hungry for anything in that fight.

Well of course you have seen them fight much harder lol. I believe Floyd was 38 & Manny was 36. Neither in their prime. Both in the downside of their career. Floyd's style dictates that guys slow down even more is the thing doe. Floyd gets guys thinking too much instead of fighting. Again still a matter of Floyd bringing Manny into his world & Manny not bringing Floyd into his world.

I think you'd have to be naïve to think it was real.

You'd have to be naive to think this fight doesn't look like it looked if Floyd imposed his skills on Manny instead of vice versa. Everyone picking Floyd called this fight as it went down. No surprises there. Manny couldn't compete on Floyd's level, most guys haven't been able to either, no shame there. Just gonna agree to disagree here.