When is the last time Mayweather or Pacquiao fought a Kirkland-level opponent?

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He's not a "lara" he fights nothing like him. This is what I was referring to. That style

Yeah but we're talking level of opponent not style. Just like the thread title says.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

For Pacquiao it was Chris Algeri.

For Mayweather it was Phillip N'Dou.

You have to go that far back in Floyd's career to find a 'Kirkland' level fighter on his resume.

Ndou fought way better than Kirkland and he was like 31-0 or 31-1 with like 30kos. Had like a 93% ko rate when he fought Floyd.

[IMDAZED]

The thread was never about style.

It was about the "level of opponent".

Make a point, please.

[Weebler I]

Kirkland is one of the worst boxers of all time in terms of skill. Add that to the fact that he has been away for damn near 2 years and has a novice trainer.

People hate Floyd fans because we speak the truth. James Kirkland is not a good fighter at all.

You can enjoy Canelo's performance without disrespecting the 2 greatest fighters of this era.

lol it was a Floyd fan who put them in the thread title, I don't really see the relation between the two fights to be honest. Alvarez can't be praised because Floyd and Manny always fight better comp? (allegedly) What kind of nonsense is that?

On Kirkland, Sakio Bika is as agricultural as they come and he is a world champion who gave Andre Ward the hardest fight of his career (along with Boone). Provodnikov and Maidana have fought like relative cavemen for most of their careers, it doesn't mean they aren't amongst the best in the world at what they do. It's not always about perceived level of skill, intangibles matter a lot too.

Kirkland being out and having a novice trainer are fair grievances but Kirkland has earned his spot and reputation, he has good wins on his resume and came to fight putting it on Alvarez from the opening bell.

[RealLifeMovie]

In all honesty Guerrero is no better than Kirkland. In many respects Kirkland is a better fighter. Guerrero bit more technical but honestly he's a pretty average fighter.

Algieri isn't a huge amount better either, but his skills make me say he is.

[Bardock]

Kirkland is one of the worst boxers of all time in terms of skill. Add that to the fact that he has been away for damn near 2 years and has a novice trainer.

Let's just pretend canelo wasn't out of the ring for 10 months himself and let's pretend kirkland was out 2 years instead of less than a year and a half (17 months)

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Lol @ people saying Ortiz. Ortiz was coming off a big win over Berto and lot of fans was saying Floyd was scared of Ortiz. I'm pretty sure we can dig up some quotes on here where people were even picking him. Wasn't Ortiz a ranked WBC champion?

[SeekDaGreat]

Kirkland not only is unskilled.but he is shot,punch drunk and was inactive

Yeah, it's easy to say that now after Canelo beat the living sh¡t out of him. He sure didn't look shot and punch drunk in round one when he was teeing off on Canelo in the corner. C'mon Larry, don't succumb to this inaccurate, terrible thread.

[Bardock]

Massively so, people aren't allowed to enjoy a Canelo win now. I'm not even a Canelo fan, but it was a good win in an exciting fight that was good for boxing, let it be ffs lol.

"Nah nah nah, TBE! That was no real fight that was a mismatch! The only reason it good good numbers is because the fight of the century was playing, everyone wanted to see TBE put on a masterful performance"

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

lol it was a Floyd fan who put them in the thread title, I don't really see the relation between the two fights to be honest. Alvarez can't be praised because Floyd and Manny always fight better comp? (allegedly) What kind of nonsense is that?

On Kirkland, Sakio Bika is as agricultural as they come and he is a world champion who gave Andre Ward the hardest fight of his career (along with Boone). Provodnikov and Maidana have fought like relative cavemen for most of their careers, it doesn't mean they aren't amongst the best in the world at what they do. It's not always about perceived level of skill, intangibles matter a lot too.

Kirkland being out and having a novice trainer are fair grievances but Kirkland has earned his spot and reputation, he has good wins on his resume and came to fight putting it on Alvarez from the opening bell.

Man shut up he has only fought once in two years, you know that fight should have never happened. It was disgusting