Originally posted by ssc73
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Having been labeled both a 'flo**' and a 'Pac****'.......Kellerman is wrong. Either you have the injury and report it, possibly postponing the fight (nothing wrong with Sept or next May even)........or you fight through it and don't make excuses on the way out.
Can't have it both ways. Pacquiao won two rounds. Two judges were generous.
Mayweather CLEARLY won easily.......he made Manny look sub-par. The shoulder excuse, if valid, is all fine and good......but the only thing that would have given Pac a chance in this fight would have been using his footwork to apply pressure. That was nullified by Mayweather's own hand and foot-speed, which were at least on par with Manny's and were under-rated going in IMO.
He couldn't get inside, he coudln't get angles, he couldn't do much of anything..........and Floyd should get the credit for that.
I don't know which fanatical side of fans are worse. I have my own opinion. But in this case, Manny was clearly outboxed. I haven't seen a Pacquiao fan give Floyd any real props, for holding the offensive machine to under 7 punches per round landed, he's still being called a coward, and all because he did his job.
Pacquiao, on the other hand, if injured, decided to take the money and run, and made an excuse in the hopes of keeping 'rematch' talk alive when 1-He knows he won't take the 25-30% he'll be lucky if he's offered, 2-The result will be the same even if he were allowed 3 good arms.
He couldn't get inside. He buzzed Mayweather one time. That's it. I lost a lot of respect for the fighter and his fans disgust me (talking about Pacquiao only fans, not boxing fans who prefer Pacquiao).
Everyone knows what Floyd is going to do. As much as everyone complains, he still sells more PPV buys than anyone EVER. Why assume he would do something different?
He could have had KO's in several recent fights and I even believe if he'd really been into making statements, could have gotten one here. That's just not him.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE FLOYD FIGHT AN EXCITING FIGHT, FORCE HIM TO DO IT. THAT'S WHAT PAC WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING TO THE RING. INJURY OR NOT, HE FAILED. AND HE WAS THROWING HIS RH ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 12TH. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG, HE COULD HAVE USED IT MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH FEINTS AND TO SET TRAPS........HE WAS OUT-THOUGHT AND OUT-FOUGHT.........
FOR THE LOVE OF THE BOXING GODS, CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON? FLOYD AND MANNY ARE DONE........THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT FIGHERS COMING UP......CAN WE NOT TALK ABOUT THESE TWO? THERE WAS REASON BEFORE. THEY HADN'T FOUGHT. NOW THEY HAVE. BUY THE SHOULDER INJURY OR NOT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME OR SCORING.......
PLEASE LET'S DISCUSS SOMETHING ELSE??
Can't have it both ways. Pacquiao won two rounds. Two judges were generous.
Mayweather CLEARLY won easily.......he made Manny look sub-par. The shoulder excuse, if valid, is all fine and good......but the only thing that would have given Pac a chance in this fight would have been using his footwork to apply pressure. That was nullified by Mayweather's own hand and foot-speed, which were at least on par with Manny's and were under-rated going in IMO.
He couldn't get inside, he coudln't get angles, he couldn't do much of anything..........and Floyd should get the credit for that.
I don't know which fanatical side of fans are worse. I have my own opinion. But in this case, Manny was clearly outboxed. I haven't seen a Pacquiao fan give Floyd any real props, for holding the offensive machine to under 7 punches per round landed, he's still being called a coward, and all because he did his job.
Pacquiao, on the other hand, if injured, decided to take the money and run, and made an excuse in the hopes of keeping 'rematch' talk alive when 1-He knows he won't take the 25-30% he'll be lucky if he's offered, 2-The result will be the same even if he were allowed 3 good arms.
He couldn't get inside. He buzzed Mayweather one time. That's it. I lost a lot of respect for the fighter and his fans disgust me (talking about Pacquiao only fans, not boxing fans who prefer Pacquiao).
Everyone knows what Floyd is going to do. As much as everyone complains, he still sells more PPV buys than anyone EVER. Why assume he would do something different?
He could have had KO's in several recent fights and I even believe if he'd really been into making statements, could have gotten one here. That's just not him.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE FLOYD FIGHT AN EXCITING FIGHT, FORCE HIM TO DO IT. THAT'S WHAT PAC WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING TO THE RING. INJURY OR NOT, HE FAILED. AND HE WAS THROWING HIS RH ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 12TH. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG, HE COULD HAVE USED IT MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH FEINTS AND TO SET TRAPS........HE WAS OUT-THOUGHT AND OUT-FOUGHT.........
FOR THE LOVE OF THE BOXING GODS, CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON? FLOYD AND MANNY ARE DONE........THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT FIGHERS COMING UP......CAN WE NOT TALK ABOUT THESE TWO? THERE WAS REASON BEFORE. THEY HADN'T FOUGHT. NOW THEY HAVE. BUY THE SHOULDER INJURY OR NOT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME OR SCORING.......
PLEASE LET'S DISCUSS SOMETHING ELSE??
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