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  • #31
    Poochiao is a coward and only Pac Turds don't accept the truth. HBO put Max in time out for humiliating Poochiao during the post fight interview, so he changes the tune to keep his job. You can tell when Poochiao said "i tot i wun the pite" that he was looking for a friend in Max, someone who would side with him. When Max laid the smack down, Poochiao was stuck in no mans land, all by himself, feeling naked and ******. That moment is still gold.

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    • #32
      Having been labeled both a 'flo**' and a 'Pac****'.......Kellerman is wrong. Either you have the injury and report it, possibly postponing the fight (nothing wrong with Sept or next May even)........or you fight through it and don't make excuses on the way out.

      Can't have it both ways. Pacquiao won two rounds. Two judges were generous.

      Mayweather CLEARLY won easily.......he made Manny look sub-par. The shoulder excuse, if valid, is all fine and good......but the only thing that would have given Pac a chance in this fight would have been using his footwork to apply pressure. That was nullified by Mayweather's own hand and foot-speed, which were at least on par with Manny's and were under-rated going in IMO.

      He couldn't get inside, he coudln't get angles, he couldn't do much of anything..........and Floyd should get the credit for that.

      I don't know which fanatical side of fans are worse. I have my own opinion. But in this case, Manny was clearly outboxed. I haven't seen a Pacquiao fan give Floyd any real props, for holding the offensive machine to under 7 punches per round landed, he's still being called a coward, and all because he did his job.

      Pacquiao, on the other hand, if injured, decided to take the money and run, and made an excuse in the hopes of keeping 'rematch' talk alive when 1-He knows he won't take the 25-30% he'll be lucky if he's offered, 2-The result will be the same even if he were allowed 3 good arms.

      He couldn't get inside. He buzzed Mayweather one time. That's it. I lost a lot of respect for the fighter and his fans disgust me (talking about Pacquiao only fans, not boxing fans who prefer Pacquiao).

      Everyone knows what Floyd is going to do. As much as everyone complains, he still sells more PPV buys than anyone EVER. Why assume he would do something different?

      He could have had KO's in several recent fights and I even believe if he'd really been into making statements, could have gotten one here. That's just not him.

      IF YOU WANT TO MAKE FLOYD FIGHT AN EXCITING FIGHT, FORCE HIM TO DO IT. THAT'S WHAT PAC WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING TO THE RING. INJURY OR NOT, HE FAILED. AND HE WAS THROWING HIS RH ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 12TH. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG, HE COULD HAVE USED IT MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH FEINTS AND TO SET TRAPS........HE WAS OUT-THOUGHT AND OUT-FOUGHT.........

      FOR THE LOVE OF THE BOXING GODS, CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON? FLOYD AND MANNY ARE DONE........THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT FIGHERS COMING UP......CAN WE NOT TALK ABOUT THESE TWO? THERE WAS REASON BEFORE. THEY HADN'T FOUGHT. NOW THEY HAVE. BUY THE SHOULDER INJURY OR NOT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME OR SCORING.......

      PLEASE LET'S DISCUSS SOMETHING ELSE??
      Last edited by ssc73; 05-12-2015, 03:23 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ssc73 View Post
        Having been labeled both a '*****' and a 'Pac****'.......Kellerman is wrong. Either you have the injury and report it, possibly postponing the fight (nothing wrong with Sept or next May even)........or you fight through it and don't make excuses on the way out.

        Can't have it both ways. Pacquiao won two rounds. Two judges were generous.

        Mayweather CLEARLY won easily.......he made Manny look sub-par. The shoulder excuse, if valid, is all fine and good......but the only thing that would have give Pac a chance in this fight would have been his footwork. He couldn't get inside, he coudln't get angles, he couldn't do much of anything..........

        I don't know which fanatical side of fans are worse. I have my own opinion. But in this case, Manny was clearly outboxed. I haven't seen a Pacquiao fan give him any real props, he's till being called a coward, and all because he did his job. Pacquiao took the money and ran, and made an excuse in the hopes of keeping 'rematch' talk alive when 1-He knows he take what he's offered, 2-The result will be the same even if he were allowed 3 good arms.

        He couldn't get inside. He buzzed Mayweather one time. That's it. I lost a lot of respect for the fighter and his fans disgust me (talking about Pacquiao only fans, not boxing fans who prefer Pacquiao).

        Everyone knows what Floyd is going to do. As much as everyone complains, he still sells more PPV buys than anyone EVER. Why assume he would do something different?

        He could have had KO's in several recent fights and I even believe if he'd really been into making statements, could have gotten one here. That's just not him.

        IF YOU WANT TO MAKE FLOYD FIGHT AN EXCITING FIGHT, FORCE HIM TO DO IT. THAT'S WHAT PAC WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING TO THE RING. INJURY OR NOT, HE FAILED. AND HE WAS THROWING HIS RH ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 12TH. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG, HE COULD HAVE USED IT MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH FEINTS AND TO SET TRAPS........HE WAS OUT-THOUGHT AND OUT-FOUGHT.........

        FOR THE LOVE OF THE BOXING GODS, CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON? FLOYD AND MANNY ARE DONE........THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT FIGHERS COMING UP......CAN WE NOT TALK ABOUT THESE TWO? THERE WAS REASON BEFORE. THEY HADN'T FOUGHT. NOW THEY HAVE. BUY THE SHOULDER INJURY OR NOT, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME OR SCORING.......

        PLEASE LET'S DISCUSS SOMETHING ELSE??
        I agree. Time to move on, but the Pac Turds just won't accept Floyd is the superior boxer. I saw no difference between how he threw right hooks in this fight and vs Algieri. Whenever he got close, he was letting bombs fly without a care in the world. Injury story is bogus. And just like you said, the shoulder has nothing to do with his trash footwork, his inability to avoid the jab, the lead right, or make any adjustments. He was literally trying to do the same sht all night long, trying to force his way inside. No game plan, no boxing IQ, nothing.. the guy looked like a sparring partner.

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        • #34
          One other thing to note..........there is another well-known and common use for Toradol........anyone know what that is?

          It can give athletes with injuries a feeling of invincibility as though they could go through 'a cinder block wall'.........

          Also commonly referred to by NFL and other pro sports players as 'the last legal pep pill'........

          Not saying Pac did that........but..........??

          Look it up.........

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          • #35
            HBO broadcast team has made fools of themselves on all fronts now. It seems that their was some kind of agenda in the background going on during the fight and an obvious flip flop after the fight.

            I think they were courting Floyd knowing his Sho contract was coming to an end and expecting him to fight on anyways...and then realized that they shot themselves in the foot afterwards by selling a little Manny short.
            Last edited by jaded; 05-12-2015, 03:50 AM.

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            • #36
              Manny is with HBO so of course they would want to shield Manny but the damage Kellerman did was done and set in more than the cover up excuse. Also Lampley spoke out about it and HBO stating that Manny should have spoke up about an injury and that they (HBO) didn't know.

              And people are not mad that Manny has tried to taint Mayweather's win but the fact how fake he is and how much of a sucker he showed us he could be. His ego is highly inflated and what Floyd did to him was something he could not bare but facts are it still happened and no one is giving him a pass except apologists. Manny is #48 by getting outclassed and the injury excuse doesn't change this.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ssc73 View Post
                One other thing to note..........there is another well-known and common use for Toradol........anyone know what that is?

                It can give athletes with injuries a feeling of invincibility as though they could go through 'a cinder block wall'.........

                Also commonly referred to by NFL and other pro sports players as 'the last legal pep pill'........

                Not saying Pac did that........but..........??

                Look it up.........
                Toradol is an anti-inflammatory drug...it has no psychological effects. It inhibits the enzyme that causes inflammation...end of story.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by OutClassed View Post
                  Boxing is dying
                  Floyd is killing it

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by marcogman View Post
                    I double you check that...

                    Fight was way closer than anyone had figured.
                    Check this out.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlZrkYxQOe4

                    And count the real punches not the air. Or shoulder ****s!
                    Fact I DARE YOU TO COUNT THE PUNHES
                    I freely admit Manny won the 4th and 6th.........but over the course of the entire fight...........that video shows exactly what I saw. A CLEAR win for Mayweather.........

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                    • #40
                      I agree with Max here.
                      BUT, I don't think Pac lost because of the shoulder injury. He lost because he wasted too much time trying to get Floyd on the ropes and ended up not throwing enough, thus not landing enough to win rounds.

                      Who knows what would've happened if Pac was 100%, it's all hypothetical. And I hate hypotethicals, thus my username (Fresh Prince reference).
                      Fact is Floyd won that fight (I gave Pac more rounds than the judges though). And Floyd won it because of a great game plan.
                      I'm convinced that Floyd is a better tactician than both Pac and Roach. But the I'm not convinced that Floyd is a better fighter or boxer than Pac.
                      I was very impressed by Pac's defense and counter punching during the fight actually.

                      I want a rematch just because I think mega fights like this should be fought more than once. I always said I would want a rematch no matter how lop sided the fight was.

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