Hopkins and Pauline is an embarrassment

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pac man had success in this fight, he is a world class fighter, his left hand landed at times. i rewatched it several times and manny was no pushover floyd definitely respected who was in front of him but floyd was the better boxer and footwork was phenominal

I have no problem with the legal moves of Floyd. It's all the other stuff that he does and gets away with. If it was someone else, he would be getting more hard warnings and points deducted.

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I don't doubt he had some ache or pain. But I do doubt the severity of the injury. Clearly many who blindly believe everything the man says as gospel don't have any kind of familiarity with the proposed injury. Torn rotator cuff? C'mon now. He was throwing both hands throughout the fight, and raised his hands after. Even did some casual movements with his right hand (wiping his face ect) during the post fight interview that would have been pointless for him to grimace through to do. He was in very little, if any, pain. Certainly not suffering a severe injury. I'd bet on that.


This is all to justify a rematch anyway. It's a money grab.

Floyd said that he too had a rotator cuff injury in the Castillo 1 fight and blamed that instead of giving Castillo credit. Yet, if you watch the tape, Floyd did use both hands and came back after 7 months to fight Castillo in their rematch.

Now that I said that your hero said it, then it must be true right?

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Floyd said that he too had a rotator cuff injury in the Castillo 1 fight and blamed that instead of giving Castillo credit. Yet, if you watch the tape, Floyd did use both hands and came back after 7 months to fight Castillo in their rematch.

Now that I said that your hero said it, then it must be true right?

Who's hero? You must be confused. I wanted Floyd to lose.

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They mad at Paulie because he was spot on in his fight assessment.



Keep crying.

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In fact, I bet on manny over Cotto back when the majority of this site was of the opinion Cotto was too big...old school son.

Just can't stand weak ass justifications. I watched the fight, and Manny came in trying to beat Floyd at his own game. How many Mayweather opponents have to try, and fail, doing that for future opponents to get a clue?

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so manny fans hate hopkins now too? lol

You don't have to hate. Just disagree with his statements.

In that form there were those pain killers mentioned. Hopkins says that the commission would question what was on that form. Why then did the commissions not say "what did you use those pain killers for"?

Also, why is Hopkins not talking about that Manny did tell USADA? What about the pain killers on the form?

Finally, I still remember many here dogging Hopkins when he had that supposed injury against Chad Dawson. Yet he now is questioning because of a check box?

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I don't doubt he had some ache or pain. But I do doubt the severity of the injury. Clearly many who blindly believe everything the man says as gospel don't have any kind of familiarity with the proposed injury. Torn rotator cuff? C'mon now. He was throwing both hands throughout the fight, and raised his hands after. Even did some casual movements with his right hand (wiping his face ect) during the post fight interview that would have been pointless for him to grimace through to do. He was in very little, if any, pain. Certainly not suffering a severe injury. I'd bet on that.


This is all to justify a rematch anyway. It's a money grab.

I had a "strained" rotator a few years back and I don't want to sound like a lil biatch but, I couldn't lift my elbow out in a lateral movement, like a shoulder fly type of movement, for two weeks. I had shooting pains all the time for months like 3 months afterwards. I went to the orthopedic specialist and he acted like it was no big deal. He said a total tear would have meant that when he did his tests, that my shoulder would likely pop out of the socket.

Not saying there wasn't some issue with the shoulder heading into the fight but "a significant tear"..........uh....maybe my experience was an anomaly or something?

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Who's hero? You must be confused. I wanted Floyd to lose.

OK, no problem.

So you know that Floyd fought with such an injury too against Castillo, right? Instead of crediting Castillo, he excused his performance on the injury.

So that said, Manny and Floyd both fought with it. The severity must have been different because Floyd came back after 7 months and that was 13 years ago.

For Manny, it was severe enough to have surgery. So it was not one of those where it heals up on its own.

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OK, no problem.

So you know that Floyd fought with such an injury too against Castillo, right? Instead of crediting Castillo, he excused his performance on the injury.

So that said, Manny and Floyd both fought with it. The severity must have been different because Floyd came back after 7 months and that was 13 years ago.

For Manny, it was severe enough to have surgery. So it was not one of those where it heals up on its own.

Bull****. Floyd was complaining about his shoulder early in the fight even when he was clearly winning. After the fight ppl asked about it and he answered. It's not the same thing. Please do yourself a favor and take some time off from the site.

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I had a "strained" rotator a few years back and I don't want to sound like a lil biatch but, I couldn't lift my elbow out in a lateral movement, like a shoulder fly type of movement, for two weeks. I had shooting pains all the time for months like 3 months afterwards. I went to the orthopedic specialist and he acted like it was no big deal. He said a total tear would have meant that when he did his tests, that my shoulder would likely pop out of the socket.

Not saying there wasn't some issue with the shoulder heading into the fight but "a significant tear"..........uh....maybe my experience was an anomaly or something?

No man.. That's consistent with my own knowledge of the injury. I had a strain type injury, and a simple jab would have been a "grimace through it" type of affair. My friend had an actual tear and he couldn't lift his arm above the level of his collar bone for a long time. I still don't think he's 100% even after all this time.

Manny was just throwing too fluidly and moving that arm too freely for me to believe he had a torn rotator cuff. No way. Some other ache or pain? Sure,,,, but a severe injury?......nah