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  • Originally posted by QuebecSTAR2 View Post
    please dont disrespect the greatness of mohammed ali.

    what floyd did against pacman is not anything like foreman vs ali.

    unlike floyd, the great mohammed ali closed the show.

    Watch Ali - Frazier II. Ali clinched at least 75 times and i'm an Ali fan to the fullest. History tends to give people a rosy impression of past greats.

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    • Manny was a disgrace there is no doubt about it , on so many levels he was a disgrace .

      1) Before this fight lying to everybody on a daily basis , these are his fans and his country and he told them a pack of lies , they believed in him and he lied to them like they ment nothing .


      2) During the fight he was a disgrace because he showed how far below Mayweather he is , he was not competitive , the so called buzz saw was reduced to a turtle on its back .

      3) After the fight because he is a whiny ass sore loser , every fight this bleeding heart has lost has had the biggest bullsheet excuses .

      In all the years Ive never attacked Manny as a person until now , I lost all respect for him after the way he went about this .

      Hope the people that bet on his hyped up coward ass sue the mofo for everything he has , he deceived everybody on all levels fck Manny .

      Ive never said anything like this about a fighter before , what Manny did was a disgrace alright .
      Last edited by Reloaded; 05-09-2015, 08:22 PM.

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        • I'm new here - hi.

          Originally posted by bigsmoothh View Post
          wilder, let me ask you this. How you gonna put an ass whoopin on a man who immidiately clinches you or simplys runs away from you?
          I'm not sure how young or new you are to boxing, but...

          "The Thrilla in Manilla". Touted as one of boxing's greatest overall fights between two of boxing's legends: Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier.

          Did you know that Ali, touted as the "World's Greatest", clinched Frazier a total of 95 times? Ninety-five. Compared to Floyd's maybe 13-18?

          Did you know that Ali would frequently push down, hold arms, etc?

          Did you know that Frazier, like Algieri with the Ruslan fight, was basically fighting with one eye?

          This isn't a criticism of Ali, Frazier, or the fight. Rather, it's a celebration of Ali's style, and anyone who's paying attention to Floyd Mayweather will instantly notice parallels in that style. That's why I found it rather funny that Ali would later praise Pacquiao knowing full well that Floyd would do to him what Ali had once done to Frazier.

          Point is: the best in the sport have used clinches throughout the fight. Tyson clinched, Holyfield clinched (And headbutted), Spinks clinched, Duran clinched later in his career, Leonard clinched...clinching is a part of the game. It's up to the opponent to learn how to deal with it so that there's no opportunity to clinch or at least minimize that chance. Young George Foreman and young Tommy Hearns did great with that.

          Originally posted by C-SHO View Post
          I watched the fight with British announcers who ripped on Pac for fighting so poorly and complemented Mayweather for his pure boxing skill.
          I watched and heard the same. But that's because the UK appreciates a good boxing match; thus why someone like Chris Eubank was huge over there but hardly known over here.

          Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
          Who's ever done that to Manny? This with his back to the ropes.
          This gif I want to thank you for posting because it shows me one thing. (I'd quote it except for the rather peculiar policy against "URL" for a new sub, despite it being an IMG.)

          More important than Floyd's position is Manny's hands. I once said that Manny depends on the same combo flurry, but he has to set it up with that first left. If the first left doesn't land or doesn't land square, he doesn't know any other way to deal with it. See how he's still trying to continue a combo after Floyd gets there first? He doesn't adjust and never has.

          In the later rounds when Floyd was taunting him, Manny still did the same combo, despite Floyd blocking it the exact same way each time. He never adjusted. That's why Floyd was able to beat him.

          There was no shoulder injury (confirmed by Manny's lawyer, but even the fight proved it), he was still throwing flurries, and raised his arms with a smile after the fight. Rotator cuff you're NOT doing that.

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          • Originally posted by QuebecSTAR2 View Post
            please dont disrespect the greatness of mohammed ali.

            what floyd did against pacman is not anything like foreman vs ali.

            unlike floyd, the great mohammed ali closed the show.

            What show did Ali close ?He has around a 60 % K.O percentage and maybe half of that when fighting guys over 210 ...which has absolutely nothing to do what i posted anyway....

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