Comments Thread For: Holyfield on Mayweather-Pac: A lot of Running, Hugging

[megadeth]

Oh, so she is lying to you. Sorry to hear that. Well, its expected. She doesn't want to hurt your feelings.

Why would it hurt my feeling? Are you under the impression that EVERY filipino is in love with Pacquiao. If you are, you are sadly mistaken.

I don't know him personally but people know that Manny is a kind generous person.

You know exactly what his PR machine wants you to know, so stop acting like his public acts are exactly how he is in private. Then again, it wouldn't matter to you anyway because no matter who he is, you won't hold him responsible for it.

As for his injury, he had surgery. This injury was brought up to USADA weeks before the fight. The commissions new as well before the fight. Probably even Floyd knew ........ doctor was interviewed as well.

They can SAY anything. That doesn't mean that it's true. Pac said taking blood made him weak...LIE! He said he signed the contract and was waiting for Floyd...LIE! He said God told him to retire soon years ago...LIE! Surgery could mean that the doctor scoped his shoulder and found nothing wrong. If this was Floyd, you certainly would not be believing that he had an injury, that's for sure. Show me ANYWHERE in the fight where there is ANY indication that his shoulder is injured.

Poor sport? Manny was OK with his previous defeats. He was robbed against Bradley and didn't make a big deal of that.

Really? He was ok with his previous defeats? Because I seem to remember him giving about 3 or 4 different excuses why he lost to Morales..ie gloves, socks, blood testing. Or how about how he said JMM landed a "lucky punch"? Or how he whined for a rematch after they BOTH said that it was their last win or lose! http://******.craveonline.com/news/1...ed-lucky-punch Face it, #48 is a sore loser who has always made exuses when he doesn't get the win!

If you think that ticks off your wife (she is lying to you) then what do you think she thinks of Floyd?

Actually she watched the interviews w/Floyd and was pissed off that he gave Pac full credit while Pac whined and made excuses. She was embarrassed by how he acted and how so many people made excuses for #48 rather than admitting the truth.

[Twako]

some hug.
some clinch.
some run.

holyfield may have done one of these. but he never ran.

floyd takes the cake for doing all these against a one-armed midget.

[SUBZER0ED]

Look dude, over exaggerating Floyd holding serves no purpose. The 4th round Floyd didn't hold many during the flurry and Manny willingly stepped back because his punches were being blocked.

The injury is bogus. It's done to try and justify using Toradol for the extra "uumph". Don't use something you saw from a pac stan to confirm Floyd knew. Manny failed to perform, lied on the form, lied to Max and lied in the presser because he couldn't beat a better fighter.

If you can't accept it, that's on you.

You referenced one round where Floyd didn't run, grab and hold. One.

Toradol is an anti-iflammatory drug used to reduce swelling and pain. What "uumph" can be gained from it? If anything, Pac's request to use it and the USADA's approval confirms that he was injured. Would the USADA not inform Mayweather? Also, the widely rumored "mole" in the Pac camp suggests that mayweather knew why Pacquiao suspended sparring for weeks.

http://www.rxlist.com/toradol-drug.htm

http://www.businessinsider.com/manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-shoulder-injury-2015-5

Well if the injury is bogus, it's a hell of a ruse. Pac's even named the doc who performed the surgery.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/07/manny-pacquiao-was-my-surgery-successful-check-yes-or-no/

[WESS]

[ADP02]

Don't waste your breath, these idiots think Pac just had surgery as part of some elaborate hoax. That is, those who accept that the surgery actually happened. There are clowns who think it's all part of some movie Arum is filming.

I remember when Pac missed a week of sparring. Everyone assumed it was because of leg cramps, but obviously it was something far more severe.

That is Wess. We can show him a video with proof and he will pretend that it's a fake. Sad.

Yes, I remember when Manny stopped sparring. I was one that said that if Manny didn't spar for more than a day or two then there is something that is definitely up and I did mention that it was more than likely due to an injury. That was when Manny was supposed to pick up his sparring game (ie. more rounds) yet they stopped? It was obvious but now we know for a fact.

[The Big Dunn]

You referenced one round where Floyd didn't run, grab and hold. One.

Toradol is an anti-iflammatory drug used to reduce swelling and pain. What "uumph" can be gained from it? If anything, Pac's request to use it and the USADA's approval confirms that he was injured. Would the USADA not inform Mayweather? Also, the widely rumored "mole" in the Pac camp suggests that mayweather knew why Pacquiao suspended sparring for weeks.

http://www.rxlist.com/toradol-drug.htm

http://www.businessinsider.com/manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-shoulder-injury-2015-5

Well if the injury is bogus, it's a hell of a ruse. Pac's even named the doc who performed the surgery.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/05/07/manny-...eck-yes-or-no/

http://boxingtribune-news.com/posts/2358013/the-mystery-surrounding-manny-pacquiao---s-injection.html

see above for torodol's other uses.

Yes, I referenced the 4th because that was Manny's best round. Floyd didn't hold him at all, let him punch and he voluntarily stepped back. Manny not throwing punches wasn't because of holding, it was because he didn't want to get countered an KO'd.

The injury is fake IMO because:

1. Manny never mentioned it to Max
2. Manny filled form out by checking no
3. Manny had to have Koncz tell him when the reporter asked him
4. Mann/Bob have used personal relationships with a dr. to get Manny medical treatment (stitches) that his regular dr. and the post fight examining dr. didn't feel necessary
5. why hasn't Manny's regular physician treated this injury for 6 years?

[QuebecSTAR2]

what u expect a floyd groupies to say.

[The Big Dunn]

Don't waste your breath, these idiots think Pac just had surgery as part of some elaborate hoax. That is, those who accept that the surgery actually happened. There are clowns who think it's all part of some movie Arum is filming.

I remember when Pac missed a week of sparring. Everyone assumed it was because of leg cramps, but obviously it was something far more severe.

How did Manny's regular physician miss this for 6 years and why has Manny never listed the shoulder on any pre fight forms before?

[ADP02]

Why would it hurt my feeling? Are you under the impression that EVERY filipino is in love with Pacquiao. If you are, you are sadly mistaken.



You know exactly what his PR machine wants you to know, so stop acting like his public acts are exactly how he is in private. Then again, it wouldn't matter to you anyway because no matter who he is, you won't hold him responsible for it.



They can SAY anything. That doesn't mean that it's true. Pac said taking blood made him weak...LIE! He said he signed the contract and was waiting for Floyd...LIE! He said God told him to retire soon years ago...LIE! Surgery could mean that the doctor scoped his shoulder and found nothing wrong. If this was Floyd, you certainly would not be believing that he had an injury, that's for sure. Show me ANYWHERE in the fight where there is ANY indication that his shoulder is injured.



Really? He was ok with his previous defeats? Because I seem to remember him giving about 3 or 4 different excuses why he lost to Morales..ie gloves, socks, blood testing. Or how about how he said JMM landed a "lucky punch"? Or how he whined for a rematch after they BOTH said that it was their last win or lose! http://******.craveonline.com/news/1...ed-lucky-punch Face it, #48 is a sore loser who has always made exuses when he doesn't get the win!



Actually she watched the interviews w/Floyd and was pissed off that he gave Pac full credit while Pac whined and made excuses. She was embarrassed by how he acted and how so many people made excuses for #48 rather than admitting the truth.

Most do like him a lot because of various reasons. Nothing is 100% but the vast majority do.

No its not just PR. Manny does the things that has been said. Maybe your wife is not from the same area as Manny or just has not been paying attention but I can tell you that its the real deal.

His doctor lied too? 4-6 months rehab? Stop it or you will be just like what you wrote about Manny. All lies!

As for me, I'm a fan of his but also a fan of other boxers. Both before, during and after him.

As for your wife, she is married to you so she is just making you feel good by saying that. Deep down inside, she wished Manny won but from the way you speak about her, she will probably never say that to you in your face.

[WESS]

what u expect a floyd groupies to say.

I didn't say anything. Pac's sparring partner did. Stop trying to lie like a coward. You're not Manny...