Comments Thread For: Holyfield on Mayweather-Pac: A lot of Running, Hugging

[The Big Dunn]

You lie. I present you with facts. Go back a few pages and its all there. Just because one sparring partner was not aware of it that doesn't mean that other sparring partners did know about Manny's injuries and confirmed to keep it a secret and that they were let go early as well due to the injury.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=673877

Roach said the shots were hurting him in camp. where was the shoulder injury?

[beatnutts]

USADA knew weeks ago. Not that hard to understand even for a Floyd fan who is bending backwards to set out an agenda.

USADA is third party and they deal with drug testing only not injuries. they don't even have people who specialize in injuries and the only way they knew is because all medicine are suppose to be disclosed and the most important part, they don't knew certain drugs are ever used for certain injuries. this is how it works, they get hired to test all samples by Floyd and Manny for doping only and are provided with a list of drugs both guys are currently using. they don't know jack crap about injuries. they are a drug lab and that's it.

[WESS]

I don't get it. I know ADOP2 is a diehard **** smoker but this is bad even for him.

Manny is lying either way. ADOP2 just can't figure out which lie is worse so he is trying to defend both lying on the form and failing to tell Max post fight.

I guess he would rather look ******ed than just admit Floyd is the better man.

Which is my point. Regardless if he had an injury or not, he lied.

However, I provided evidence of a sparring partner who said pac didn't appear to have any injuries and was fine.

Ironically, the doc cleared Pac to fight and Pac himself suggested he had no injury. Maybe Pac was the one who couldn't read?

[QuebecSTAR2]

Why do you lie like a coward? You are not Manny.

fraud jr lies all the time but floyd groupies gets off on it.

[ADP02]

i googled it and Tavis Tygart the head of the USADA said he is only in charge of doping and is third party so he really had no documents or mris on anyone. they only knew about what making was taking only after someone from him camp had to ask if this would be considered doping under the rules but thats it. they are not responsible for any injury info because they don't even deal with that crap.

NO, they are not in charge of fight night but they need to be contacted and aware of anything that the fighter takes and approves of it. That all happened. Hence, it means that the injury was not fabricated like some of you Floyd fans are hoping for. Sorry.....

[ADP02]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=673877

Roach said the shots were hurting him in camp. where was the shoulder injury?

You guys are getting desperate. I know why but its getting pathetic. Just pretend that Manny's name is Floyd and you will get it.

BTW - link brought me to nowhere, just like your post.

[SUBZER0ED]

Dude where have you been, Bob said it happened in 2008 after a jet ski incident. He has since changed this story that it happened 2 weeks ago to it happened 6 years ago and then just flared up in the fight.

No offense dude but these articles have ben posted in the Master.

I get you like Manny, but he betrayed your trust and lied to you. You need to get a grip dude and stop this.

It's ok to hate Floyd and love Manny, but Manny is the one that lied and didn't come to fight.

With nearly 25k posts in 6 years, and an average of 4.1k posts per year, clearly you have more free time than I do to stay up on all of this ****. I have acknowledged Manny's role in this. You however, refuse to acknowledge Floyd's role in making a ****ty fight after so much anticipation and expense. Shoulder injury aside, you say that Floyd's defense and counter-punching kept Manny from going off. Equally, I believe Manny's occasional aggressiveness and desire to engage caused Mayweather to be very measured and cautious, even when he dared to attack Pacquiao that one time.

[ADP02]

Which is my point. Regardless if he had an injury or not, he lied.

However, I provided evidence of a sparring partner who said pac didn't appear to have any injuries and was fine.

Ironically, the doc cleared Pac to fight and Pac himself suggested he had no injury. Maybe Pac was the one who couldn't read?

All out of context. No surprise there .......

Why are you not pointing to the sparring partners that do know about the injury? How about the time off they had from sparring? USADA confirming?

I think that you guys are using this contraption and like usual, it just doesn't work!

[beatnutts]

fraud jr lies all the time but floyd groupies gets off on it.

ok what did Floyd lie about during this fight?

[The Big Dunn]

With nearly 25k posts in 6 years, and an average of 4.1k posts per year, clearly you have more free time than I do to stay up on all of this ****. I have acknowledged Manny's role in this. You however, refuse to acknowledge Floyd's role in making a ****ty fight after so much anticipation and expense. Shoulder injury aside, you say that Floyd's defense and counter-punching kept Manny from going off. Equally, I believe Manny's occasional aggressiveness and desire to engage caused Mayweather to be very measured and cautious, even when he dared to attack Pacquiao that one time.

Dude, please just stop. Floyd has always fought this way and the only time he doesn't have exciting fights is when guys like Canelo and Manny mail it in for the check. I mean at least admit that much.

The problem with your point after the word equally is again Floyd fights like this all the time. He is a boxer/counter puncher. Manny's aggressiveness had no bearing on it.

If you were being honest, the one time Manny was aggressive (round $) Floyd walked straight toward him after the flurry when Manny stopped engaging on his own. He either didn't want to punch himself out or didn't want to get countered.

Manny just got dominated by a superior fighter. Why is it so hard to admit that?