It would have been worse for Pac 5 years ago...

[ThePunchingBag]

Lol this is nonsense, the fight wasn't even a shutout like you guys are claiming, it was an 8-4ish fight and many of the rounds were close.

What's key is Pac's tentativeness when throwing, DeadLikeMe even posted himself how Pac's been looking extremely tentative since the Marquez KO, you don't just recover from a KO like that.

Flat footed Pac had Floyd on the ropes and took too long to get off because he was overly tentative, reckless Pac would have just let his hands go and thrashed him.

Nope, Floyd gets away with clinch and headlocks way too much for this to happen.

[Robbie Barrett]

Any Pacquiao loses to Mayweather, his in and out lunging style doesn't match up well against counter-punchers. He had trouble and got KO'd by the good one he fought and dominated by the very good one.

[MOTHERDUCKER]

I agree.. in fact I think the less cautious pre marquez ko pac would have a much higher chance of getting knocked out in similar fashion to hatton.. late on.

Even in this fight he jumped in both feet in the air..

Luckily Floyd just wants to win and not put on a real show.. he is happy to win throwing single shots if he can

[b d w]

I agree.. in fact I think the less cautious pre marquez ko pac would have a much higher chance of getting knocked out in similar fashion to hatton.. late on.

Even in this fight he jumped in both feet in the air..

Luckily Floyd just wants to win and not put on a real show.. he is happy to win throwing single shots if he can

The De la Fishnets version of Manny would have had a MUCH better chance of beating Floyd, to think this shopworn version would have done better is crazy talk.

[Bee Keepz]

I think it would be the same. Mayweather never hurt Pacquiao at all in the fight.

Pretty obvious Mayweather won't stand there and trade with Pacquiao. He used a lot of lateral movement. The scores would've been the same 8-4 give or take 1 round. Floyd just knows how to win.

Im saying
this with all my heart, I hate the fact that we had to wait 5 long years for this fight. I truly do.

And this is not a diss thread, I have nothing but respect and love for Manny, I have him up there as not just a HoF, but an ATG.

However, Ive come to the realization that he is lucky this fight didnt happen in 2010. Yeah he had a better motor back then. Better everything, in fact, as he was in his physical prime.

But... he still wouldnt have been able to cut off the ring. Still wouldnt be able to out-think Floyd. Still couldnt get away from the jabs upstairs and downstairs. Still would have gotten countered to death. Still would have been the smaller man. Still would have the shorter reach. Still couldnt match him defensively. Still wouldnt know what to do with a guy shoulder-rolling a southpaw. Still not as versatile as Floyd....

Yes things would have been rougher for Floyd in spots but Floyd is not just an ATG. He is in the same class as the untouchable legends from eras past like SRR, Ali, Leonard, Duran...

[MOTHERDUCKER]

The De la Fishnets version of Manny would have had a MUCH better chance of beating Floyd, to think this shopworn version would have done better is crazy talk.

I think that could be his downfall he might have more success but that will lead him to be more aggressive and possibly walk into something

Mayweather does hit quite hard despite his lack of kos (more becauze he plays safe) just look how tentative the likes of manny.. canelo etc were

[b d w]

I think that could be his downfall he might have more success but that will lead him to be more aggressive and possibly walk into something

Mayweather does hit quite hard despite his lack of kos (more becauze he plays safe) just look how tentative the likes of manny.. canelo etc were

I think I would have preferred to see Manny go out all guns blazing having Mayweather in terrible trouble and then being stopped himself. That for me would constitute a better performance.

[mann187]

Lets not act like floyd wasnt old in this fight aswell, he looked alot slower than before and his legs, reflexes look like they are in decline. Lets get over what would have happened 5 years ago, its too late for that, just give the man his props and manny his, he lost who cares? they are still great fighters in their own right, lets move on to another era now because this ones finished as far as im concerned.

[deathofaclown]

People saying the older Pacquiao would have thrown more punches and been more relentless. I'm absolutely certain Pacquiao would have thrown punches all night if Mayweather had let him. No way Manny only throws 400 punches against any other fighter around. Mayweather did what he always does, takes away a guys best attribute and uses it against them. Pacquiao's is speed and punch volume. Pacquiao didn't lose it, it was removed from him during the fight.

He threw almost 700 punches against Algieri. Is anybody seriously telling me he went from around a fighter with a 700 punch output to 400 in the space of 6 months?

[KillaMane26]

Manny had no legs...no power....less gas.....and wasnt as fearless.....Back then he moved and bounced on his toes from round round 1 to 12....throwing a million punches with bad intentions.....You not gonna get me to think he didnt have a chance.....when that version of manny scared the shlt out of the Mayweather family back in 2009.....he was a monster with a unlimited gas tank