What about the opponents Offense

**enadeus** · 01-27-2005, 09:28 PM

They are pro's, they have to be able to take shots. Its all up to them in the ring, hard to say waht they will do when the fight is on. Remember Mitchell vs Tszyu II. Mitchells offense broke apart.

**BrooklynBomber** · 01-27-2005, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by DLT

Im sick of hearing everytime that people like Cotto and Zoo are fighting, all you guys say is that how can they take that power, or how can they take those body shots, or that cant run the whole fight.

You guys never talk about the opponents offense. You never ask about how will Cotto or Zoo will handle the speed and pinpoint accruracy of Floyd or how will Cotto handle the slickness and toughness and the southpaw stance of Corley. You guys act like just because these guys are big that punches wont affect them or defensivley that they will never have any problems

Hey man you sure sound frustrated. We know Zoo can take a precision and speed because his last opponents were fast and accurate. to say even further they were southpaws which is even harder to fight when you got Tszyu's style. And dont listen to the punks that say Gatti or Cotto can beat PBF. Thay sure dont know what they talking about.
The only person who is not gonna be an underdog is Zoo. Cotto is way too yong and never fought anybody of PBF's level. He sure is amazing but too green. So dont take it to close to the heart, its not worth it.

**DLT** · 01-27-2005, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by BrooklynBomber

Hey man you sure sound frustrated. We know Zoo can take a precision and speed because his last opponents were fast and accurate. to say even further they were southpaws which is even harder to fight when you got Tszyu's style. And dont listen to the punks that say Gatti or Cotto can beat PBF. Thay sure dont know what they talking about.
The only person who is not gonna be an underdog is Zoo. Cotto is way too yong and never fought anybody of PBF's level. He sure is amazing but too green. So dont take it to close to the heart, its not worth it.

Your wrong about Zoo because everyone knows that Zoo does way better against southpaws. He always has. South paws are perfect for Zoo because the #1 punch against a lefty is the straight right. I knew someone would bring up Mitchell and Zab but I didnt feel like writing anymore. They are leftys with bad chins and suspect defense. Zab was giving him problems with his offense in the first round and Mitchell's offense gave Zoo problems in the first fight, He just fought a ****** fight in the second one

**DLT** · 01-27-2005, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by deuskie

They are pro's, they have to be able to take shots. Its all up to them in the ring, hard to say waht they will do when the fight is on. Remember Mitchell vs Tszyu II. Mitchells offense broke apart.

Mitchells offense broke apart because he fought a crazy ass fight. The idiot actually tried to go toe to toe with Zoo

**hollister** · 01-27-2005, 10:05 PM

Zoo put alot more pressure on Zab in the second round, that was also a factor.

**enadeus** · 01-27-2005, 10:05 PM

Exactly, basically you can say whatever you want against the fighters offense or defense but when they get in the fight is when you really know what they will do. For example de la Hoya vs Hopkins, no one thought that de la Hoya would fight toe to toe with Hopkins.

**davico** · 01-27-2005, 10:18 PM

Im sick of hearing everytime that people like Cotto and Zoo are fighting, all you guys say is that how can they take that power, or how can they take those body shots, or that cant run the whole fight.

You guys never talk about the opponents offense. You never ask about how will Cotto or Zoo will handle the speed and pinpoint accruracy of Floyd or how will Cotto handle the slickness and toughness and the southpaw stance of Corley. You guys act like just because these guys are big that punches wont affect them or defensivley that they will never have any problems

You keep complaining about this and that but not once have you ever admitted that maybe PBF can be hurt by someone, the way you keep going on and on about how he is either not going to get hit or will just roll out of the punches is getting boring. Do you truly believe that if KT and PBF fight that PBF will not get hit with one clean shot the whole fight? I'm not saying that KT will dominate PBF and knock him out in 1 round. Personally I believe it would be a great fight and if one or the other is a little off their game it will decide the fight. What I am saying is in my OPINION, if both are fighting at close to their best KT has the right tools in a matchup of styles to land on PBF with clean shots, which at the weight they will have to fight at could be the undoing of PBF. We have all seen what KT can do when he lands those clean powerful rights (and his left hook is highly underrated) and I just believe that if he can land a few early, he will be able to slow PBF down and win the fight.

**DLT** · 01-27-2005, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by davico

You keep complaining about this and that but not once have you ever admitted that maybe PBF can be hurt by someone, the way you keep going on and on about how he is either not going to get hit or will just roll out of the punches is getting boring. Do you truly believe that if KT and PBF fight that PBF will not get hit with one clean shot the whole fight? I'm not saying that KT will dominate PBF and knock him out in 1 round. Personally I believe it would be a great fight and if one or the other is a little off their game it will decide the fight. What I am saying is in my OPINION, if both are fighting at close to their best KT has the right tools in a matchup of styles to land on PBF with clean shots, which at the weight they will have to fight at could be the undoing of PBF. We have all seen what KT can do when he lands those clean powerful rights (and his left hook is highly underrated) and I just believe that if he can land a few early, he will be able to slow PBF down and win the fight.

How can you say I havent admitted that Floyd can be hurt when everyone knows he got hurt in the Corley fight and do you think that Im ****** enough to think that Zoo will never land a clean punch on him. My point is that Floyd has a offense too, and that just because Zoo hits someone doenst mean that he will automatically KO everyone and thats all people say about Zoo and Cotto. and stop trying to act cool now because first you were saying that Zoo would kill the "overated" Mayweather and you know it

**DLT** · 01-27-2005, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by deuskie

Exactly, basically you can say whatever you want against the fighters offense or defense but when they get in the fight is when you really know what they will do. For example de la Hoya vs Hopkins, no one thought that de la Hoya would fight toe to toe with Hopkins.

What is your point by this regarding my topic?

What about the opponents Offense