USADA, VADA, and athletic comission testing?

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  • radioraheem
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    #11
    Originally posted by Boxfan83
    So UCLA does the testing? wow, why not cut out the middle man and have college labs do the test? Seems like VADA and USADA are making $ off their names alone.
    Yes, the lab at UCLA conducts the test. It's very advanced and expensive testing. There's only 2 labs in the entire United States that can perform such tests. And UCLA is one of them.

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    • Francis M.
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      #12
      Originally posted by radioraheem
      There will never be any such thing done because neither VADA nor USADA test samples internally. They just take samples and send them off to the exact same lab (UCLA) which conducts the tests and send them back results. They test for way more substances than the Commission tests.



      UCLA is given guide lines on what to test for. Therefore the process is important to verify that the testing is stringent.

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      • Boxfan83
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        #13
        Originally posted by Francis M.
        Usada does not check for synthetic testosterone unless the levels are above 4-1... It used to be 6-1....

        Vada checks each time they test.
        wow, this is interesting stuff considering (if I am correct) a mans test naturally shouldnt be higher than 1.4-1. If Vada and USADA are letting anything higher than that slide by than theyre useless.

        What about HGH and EPO, does anyone know how/if they test for this stuff?

        I think I am in the wrong business... lol

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        • radioraheem
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          #14
          Originally posted by Francis M.
          UCLA is given guide lines on what to test for. Therefore the process is important to verify that the testing is stringent.
          The lab is a WADA-accredited lab, they don't need guidelines on what to test for. They already know what their job is for quite sometime now. Both USADA and VADA abide by the WADA program. Moreso USADA because WADA recognises them officially as an anti-doping organisation.

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          • radioraheem
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            #15
            Originally posted by Boxfan83
            wow, this is interesting stuff considering (if I am correct) a mans test naturally shouldnt be higher than 1.4-1. If Vada and USADA are letting anything higher than that slide by than theyre useless.

            What about HGH and EPO, does anyone know how/if they test for this stuff?

            I think I am in the wrong business... lol
            Don't believe the hype. Even NSAC uses a 4:1 ratio now! And they don't even test for everything unless it's through their random drug testing program. But random or not, even NSAC does 4:1 on samples. So don't believe these morons.

            HGH and EPO is both tested for by every official anti-doping agency in the world that's associated with WADA.

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            • Francis M.
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              #16
              Originally posted by radioraheem
              The lab is a WADA-accredited lab, they don't need guidelines on what to test for. They already know what their job is for quite sometime now. Both USADA and VADA abide by the WADA program. Moreso USADA because WADA recognises them officially as an anti-doping organisation.


              I'm pretty sure you're incorrect VADA has already addressed the differences in what they test for vs USADA.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Francis M.
                I'm pretty sure you're incorrect VADA has already addressed the differences in what they test for vs USADA.
                No they have not. VADA does not, and has not, compared themselves with USADA in as far as what they test for. The only comparison they have ever went on record discussing, is the difference in cost. They pride themselves in being the cheaper alternative.

                The guy who has been comparing the two is none other than Victor Conte.

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                • Francis M.
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by radioraheem
                  No they have not. VADA does not, and has not, compared themselves with USADA in as far as what they test for. The only comparison they have ever went on record discussing, is the difference in cost. They pride themselves in being the cheaper alternative.

                  The guy who has been comparing the two is none other than Victor Conte.


                  Is synthetic testosterone now legal if the Ratio is under 4/1?

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by radioraheem
                    Don't believe the hype. Even NSAC uses a 4:1 ratio now! And they don't even test for everything unless it's through their random drug testing program. But random or not, even NSAC does 4:1 on samples. So don't believe these morons.

                    HGH and EPO is both tested for by every official anti-doping agency in the world that's associated with WADA.
                    lol, who are the morons? where are you right now in your head? first you call me a liar(then duck my response) and now there are some morons spreading more lies

                    who lied, with what exactly?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by radioraheem
                      The main difference though is USADA takes more samples, which drives up cost. VADA takes less samples, which drives down the cost.
                      Gonna need a source for that. Don't think that's true.

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