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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #131
    Originally posted by -Johannes-
    So if floyd had fought oscar 3 times, shane 3 times, JMM 3 times (no I'm not gonna ignore JMM becaue people were claiming he couldn't operate above 140 and he did) Castillo 3 times and Cotto 3 times would his legacy be better than left as it is right now?
    of course that's 12 damn fights with hofers. (15 IF castillo was hofer)

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #132
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      pac-jmm vs. floyd-jmm is not comparable. nor is it the argument.

      1. pac-jmm are same size so it doesn't matter what weight they fight. 2. styles.

      the argument is tough, close trilogy/quadrology vs great opp OR dominating win vs. lesser opp.
      JMM was a 3-1 or 4-1 underdog in the 1st fight. Manny was favored to win all 4 fight. He fought the other fights because he failed to win the 1st, then failed to win impressively in the 2nd, then got a robbery victory. Then he got KTFO!!

      Manny fought him 4 times because he failed to do what was necessary. We also know he took the 4th fight instead of Floyd or cotto at a non cw.

      So no, his 4 fights with JMM are not superior to Floyd whitewashing him.

      Floyd shutout a guy Manny had a 4 point lead on and couldn't defeat.

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #133
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        When you say "same size" what do you mean?

        Second. They both fought Marquez. One multiple times without a decisive victory -- although he did lose decisively. The other completely dominated. Facts.
        similar built.

        i see pac-jmm as 126-130 built. floyd more 135-140 built.


        and pac beat cotto, delahoya, mosley, hatton easier than floyd did.

        styles, circumstances, etc. are different.

        norton gave ali hell. foreman chewed up norton. what did it mean? not a damn thing.

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        • -Johannes-
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          #134
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          of course that's 12 damn fights with hofers. (15 IF castillo was hofer)
          I kind of see your point, but the fact that he had to fight 3 times shows a different Mayweather. Let's omit Castillo then, those are 12 fights against 4 hof. In reality, he only needed to fight them once to prove his superiority. How's that not better? than having multiple fights.

          It's like saying Pac fighting cotto 3X > Fighting him once and beating the snot out of him. Makes no sense to me.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #135
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            similar built.

            i see pac-jmm as 126-130 built. floyd more 135-140 built.


            and pac beat cotto, delahoya, mosley, hatton easier than floyd did.

            styles, circumstances, etc. are different.

            norton gave ali hell. foreman chewed up norton. what did it mean? not a damn thing.
            Well JMM proved to be as good, if not better, in the higher weights. Just ask Manny.

            Anyway, one dominant win over Frazier >>>> three close fights and a KO loss to Joe

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            • AliBombaye
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              #136
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              JMM was a 3-1 or 4-1 underdog in the 1st fight. Manny was favored to win all 4 fight. He fought the other fights because he failed to win the 1st, then failed to win impressively in the 2nd, then got a robbery victory. Then he got KTFO!!

              Manny fought him 4 times because he failed to do what was necessary. We also know he took the 4th fight instead of Floyd or cotto at a non cw.

              So no, his 4 fights with JMM are not superior to Floyd whitewashing him.

              Floyd shutout a guy Manny had a 4 point lead on and couldn't defeat.
              Floyd struggled with Maidana and Khan dropped Maidana something Floyd couldn't do in 24 rounds. Alexander out boxed Maidana better than Floyd could ever dream of doing, stfu with triangle theories, you fail like a kunt at it.

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              • Left Hook Tua
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                #137
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                JMM was a 3-1 or 4-1 underdog in the 1st fight. Manny was favored to win all 4 fight. He fought the other fights because he failed to win the 1st, then failed to win impressively in the 2nd, then got a robbery victory. Then he got KTFO!!

                Manny fought him 4 times because he failed to do what was necessary. We also know he took the 4th fight instead of Floyd or cotto at a non cw.

                So no, his 4 fights with JMM are not superior to Floyd whitewashing him.

                Floyd shutout a guy Manny had a 4 point lead on and couldn't defeat.
                again that's not the ****ing argument.

                it's not jmm-pac vs floyd-jmm

                it's a tough trilogy (ANY MOFO FIGHTER) vs. a easy win (ANY MOFO FIGHTER)

                what adds to your legacy?

                if you want to talk jmm talk to somebody else.

                how about having to rematch maidana. talk about that.

                you guys want to talk jmm because jmm looked awful vs floyd. LOL

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                  11-3-1

                  not mixed results. that's great.

                  especially 2 competitive FOTY level losses and 1 robbery.
                  Here is Floyds:

                  -Hernandez was a champ only beaten by ODLH

                  -Manfredy had a good win streak going that included Gatti

                  -Corrales fight

                  -Castillo x2, the first one is close so some see a robbery

                  -Gatti was on a 5 fight win streak after the OLDH loss

                  -ODLH at 154

                  -Hatton, undefeated and ranked p4p

                  -Marquez, Floyd came over weight but that fight got postponed for injuries to Floyd during training

                  -Mosley after Margarito but at a year of layoff

                  -Canelo

                  That list doesn't look as good as Manny's for the name the it contains but the timing that he fought the fighters was much better

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by AliBombaye
                    Floyd struggled with Maidana and Khan dropped Maidana something Floyd couldn't do in 24 rounds. Alexander out boxed Maidana better than Floyd could ever dream of doing, stfu with triangle theories, you fail like a kunt at it.
                    Rich Cabeza-I didn't make a triangle theory. I answered a specific question asked.

                    You bulimic troll, stop stealing and then regurgitating something you saw a from a quality poster in a thread/post where it doesn't apply.

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                    • Left Hook Tua
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Well JMM proved to be as good, if not better, in the higher weights. Just ask Manny.

                      Anyway, one dominant win over Frazier >>>> three close fights and a KO loss to Joe
                      jmm is not good at 140-147

                      only vs pac's dumb ass.

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