HBOs Mayweather/Pacquiao: The Legends Speak thoughts

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  • jas
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    #71
    Mayweather is the better skilled boxer.

    But at the elite level, the adage that "styles makes fights" becomes more significant.

    Floyd has had problems with:

    - southpaw (Corley, Judah)
    - fast (Judah)
    - awkward (maidana)
    - active (maidana, Castillo)
    - variety of punching ( Castillo)
    - cutting off ring (cotto)
    - counter punching (Judah)
    - combos (maidana)
    - body punching (Castillo)

    Manny has all of the above except:

    - great jab (Oscar)


    Along with Whitaker, I think mayweather has the best defence of all time . Like Hopkins said, you beat him by out hustling him.

    I like manny by decision.

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    • ostinato
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      #72
      Originally posted by jas
      Mayweather is the better skilled boxer.

      But at the elite level, the adage that "styles makes fights" becomes more significant.

      Floyd has had problems with:

      - southpaw (Corley, Judah)
      - fast (Judah)
      - awkward (maidana)
      - active (maidana, Castillo)
      - variety of punching ( Castillo)
      - cutting off ring (cotto)
      - counter punching (Judah)
      - combos (maidana)
      - body punching (Castillo)

      Manny has all of the above except:

      - great jab (Oscar)
      I agree with most the above except cutting off the ring. Manny is not good at doing it, Cotto and Mosley showed that in their fights with him. If they can turn Manny with regularity, I think Floyd can even moreso.

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      • Kagami Taiga
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        #73
        good stuff from hbo
        Last edited by Kagami Taiga; 04-26-2015, 02:06 PM.

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        • Dr Rumack
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          #74
          Originally posted by jas
          Mayweather is the better skilled boxer.

          But at the elite level, the adage that "styles makes fights" becomes more significant.

          Floyd has had problems with:

          - southpaw (Corley, Judah)
          - fast (Judah)
          - awkward (maidana)
          - active (maidana, Castillo)
          - variety of punching ( Castillo)
          - cutting off ring (cotto)
          - counter punching (Judah)
          - combos (maidana)
          - body punching (Castillo)

          Manny has all of the above except:

          - great jab (Oscar)


          Along with Whitaker, I think mayweather has the best defence of all time . Like Hopkins said, you beat him by out hustling him.

          I like manny by decision.
          That's a great summary. I would add that Cotto had a great jab too however. That's partly why he was so effective in trapping Mayweather, until he ran out of gas after round 8.

          What will be very significant is how well Manny's straight left substitutes for the jab. If it does the job and Floyd is forced to back up then things could get very interesting

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          • jas
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            #75
            Originally posted by Dr Rumack
            That's a great summary. I would add that Cotto had a great jab too however. That's partly why he was so effective in trapping Mayweather, until he ran out of gas after round 8.

            What will be very significant is how well Manny's straight left substitutes for the jab. If it does the job and Floyd is forced to back up then things could get very interesting
            cheers rumack

            pacquaios feints might back floyd up

            mayweather takes too many backward steps anyway

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            • -PBP-
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              #76
              Loved it. All 3 fighters bought different perspectives to the table.

              Big George the power puncher, Lennox the c ocky chess player and B Hop the mad scientist. I would love to see more of then chopping it up and talking boxing together.

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                #77
                Originally posted by hectari
                Cotto knows Floyd will molly wop and knockoout glass chin Pacquiao, stop being delusional man, im sick of you guys, wake up to reality Pac has no shot, Cotto was staying neutral because he is trained by Roach, but before that he said Floyd wins.

                PAC HAS NO SHOT!!!!! stop already man wake up stop living in a fantasy land, im sick of you guys you better kiss my feet after May 3rd, never doubt my predictions, Ive told you guys over and oveer im never wrong unless they do not follow the plan.

                Nobody with common sense is picking Pac to win, they interviewed many celebs and star athletes and over 100 of them 95 picked Floyd to win. The only ones picking Pac to win are the ones who like him personally like Wahlberg and only root for him because he is their friend and like his out of ring charity, lol, but in terms of boxing not one is picking him.

                once a mans chin has been cracked he can no longer take a punch, learn about boxing science and the brain and chin. Floyd hits harder than Pacquiao, even Oscar ssaid it, and Mosley said Floyd has power.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                  Maidana DID only win 3 rounds in the first fight and it will be the standard ring. Look at all these excuses before the fight even happens lmao

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                  • Ringlife
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                    #79
                    I just watched it, HBO is doing a great job with everything that involves Money and PacMan Mania. It was cool to see all those fighters talking about the fight.

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                    • lacson
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by PivotandRoll
                      Manny has said in the past he fights best when he fears the other guy.......So I don't think what you're implying makes sense.
                      You must have him confused with someone else. Manny has no fear.

                      You'll need to provide proof like an article or link on this one. Pac emphasizes everytime when asked, he doesn't fear anyone except God. He gets excited and that's what he emphasizes but he doesn't even get nervous.
                      Last edited by lacson; 04-26-2015, 03:53 PM.

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