Michel doesn't rule out Kovalev fight next year

[The Big Dunn]

Maybe so, but Stevenson is the one with the track record of pricing himself out of lucrative but risky fight, like Hopkins, Pascal, Kovalev. Now he's got a50/50 offer vs 3 belt people's champ on Hbo, and its looking like he ll pass to fight another scrub for much less money

He did, which is one of the reasons Duva wanted a purse bid. She got that, then pulled out and tried to save face with a BS offer that isn't real.

Same crap she pulled with VADA testing over the Pascal fight.

HBO has banned Haymon fighters unless they fight for the "right price". Herschman prefers to spend less on fights. More money and higher ratings come with a purse bid won by Michel/PBC. If HBO beats them in a purse bid, then what you are suggesting makes sense.

Have a fair competition and the highest bid takes it.

[Mitchell Kane]

Purse bid maximizes revenue for the fight. Why does Michel have to listen to Duva/HBO proposal after she positioned Kov for mandatory then withdrew?

Her withdrawal is an acknowledgement that her side will not outbid the other (which is consistent with how Ken Hesrschman and Duva run HBO/Main events respectively).

If HBO had an offer-then Kathy wouldn't have needed to go the purse bid route-which she said she did to make sure Stevenson would be forced into a fight.

It doesn't maximize the revenue anymore than if they simply negotiated.

It's not like Michel and Haymon won't have a bid amount in mind before the purse bid happens.

Purse bids aren't auctions.

And Duva's withdrawal can't be an acknowledgement of that since she doesn't know what their bid will be.

It's an acknowledgement that she doesn't know how much Haymon's side will bid.

[HeroBando]

He did, which is one of the reasons Duva wanted a purse bid. She got that, then pulled out and tried to save face with a BS offer that isn't real.

Same crap she pulled with VADA testing over the Pascal fight.

HBO has banned Haymon fighters unless they fight for the "right price". Herschman prefers to spend less on fights. More money and higher ratings come with a purse bid won by Michel/PBC. If HBO beats them in a purse bid, then what you are suggesting makes sense.

Have a fair competition and the highest bid takes it.

Again, its not an option. Stevenson has limited options of which 50/50 on HBO is easily the best. Why won't he take it?

[-PBP-]

Its much better than whatever Stevenson is gonna get if he passes on that and fight Chilemba or Fonfara 2 or another no name like he's been doing

Your looking at this situation with biased eyes. Kovalev by accepting the purse bid won't make as much money by going on HBO and fighting a rematch with Pascal. At least Stevenson can fight Beterbiev who is one of the hottest contenders in the division.

I DESTROYED Stevenson a year ago for ducking Kovalev and running to ShowTime. It was disgraceful what he did.

But now the fight can be made. Both sides apparently wanted it and the fighters were going to maximize their value by letting it go to bid. But now after demanding a purse bid, Duva backs out. And they deserve the SAME exact criticism for this that Stevenson got a year ago.

[Mitchell Kane]

Your looking at this situation with biased eyes. Kovalev by accepting the purse bid won't make as much money by going on HBO and fighting a rematch with Pascal. At least Stevenson can fight Beterbiev who is one of the hottest contenders in the division.

I DESTROYED Stevenson a year ago for ducking Kovalev and running to ShowTime. It was disgraceful what he did.

But now the fight can be made. Both sides apparently wanted it and the fighters were going to maximize their value by letting it go to bid. But now after demanding a purse bid, Duva backs out. And they deserve the SAME exact criticism for this that Stevenson got a year ago.

If Stevenson wants to take a challenge like Beterbiev, good on him.

A much younger boxer who punches like that...would be a great fight.

If that's the more attractive option to Stevenson and Michel, let's have it.

Would love to see it, especially on a free network.

[The Big Dunn]

It doesn't maximize the revenue anymore than if they simply negotiated.

It's not like Michel and Haymon won't have a bid amount in mind before the purse bid happens.

Purse bids aren't auctions.

And Duva's withdrawal can't be an acknowledgement of that since she doesn't know what their bid will be.

It's an acknowledgement that she doesn't know how much Haymon's side will bid.

I think the very large bid made on the Dirrell/DeGale fight, which exceeded the competitors bid by almost $1 mil, shows that Haymon is willing to over bid for fights.

I think the sports business journal article shows the vast resources he has to obtain fights.

I can't think of another reason why you would pull out of a purse bid that, if you won, would settle this issue easily.

I think there is no way DUva would go to the WBC with this proposal unless she checked with HBO first. HBO is not some small, rookie organization. They knew the stakes here.

So knowing the above, I strongly disagree that pulling out is not an acknowledgement that she wouldn't win.

[The Big Dunn]

Again, its not an option. Stevenson has limited options of which 50/50 on HBO is easily the best. Why won't he take it?

Just because you keep repeating it, doesn't make it true.

The best option is to continue to make big money fighting guys that want to fight you, not pretending Duva is being serious.

[HeroBando]

Your looking at this situation with biased eyes. Kovalev by accepting the purse bid won't make as much money by going on HBO and fighting a rematch with Pascal. At least Stevenson can fight Beterbiev who is one of the hottest contenders in the division.

I DESTROYED Stevenson a year ago for ducking Kovalev and running to ShowTime. It was disgraceful what he did.

But now the fight can be made. Both sides apparently wanted it and the fighters were going to maximize their value by letting it go to bid. But now after demanding a purse bid, Duva backs out. And they deserve the SAME exact criticism for this that Stevenson got a year ago.

Hershman said they're very interested in matching Kovalev with Ward. Won't happen this year, but neither will Stevenson Beterbiev, and that's nowhere near as big.

Purse bid is just not an option due to Kovalev HBO contract. Of all the possible fights for Stevenson, 50/50 on HBO is the biggestz most lucrative option

[The Big Dunn]

Your looking at this situation with biased eyes. Kovalev by accepting the purse bid won't make as much money by going on HBO and fighting a rematch with Pascal. At least Stevenson can fight Beterbiev who is one of the hottest contenders in the division.

I DESTROYED Stevenson a year ago for ducking Kovalev and running to ShowTime. It was disgraceful what he did.

But now the fight can be made. Both sides apparently wanted it and the fighters were going to maximize their value by letting it go to bid. But now after demanding a purse bid, Duva backs out. And they deserve the SAME exact criticism for this that Stevenson got a year ago.

Yup!! Guys like HeroBando should show consistency. If walking away from the fight is bad, its bad when both do it.

[The Big Dunn]

Hershman said they're very interested in matching Kovalev with Ward. Won't happen this year, but neither will Stevenson Beterbiev, and that's nowhere near as big.

Purse bid is just not an option due to Kovalev HBO contract. Of all the possible fights for Stevenson, 50/50 on HBO is the biggestz most lucrative option

Duva/Kov had not resigned with HBO when she asked for the purse bid nor when she withdrew from it.