Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: Arum Sees Light At End of Tunnel

[tiliheels]

We the lifelong fans already see your plan Bob. Crawford is waiting in the wings as your new Mayweather killer. The Bradley plan that you couldn't get off the ground redux.

bradley beat manny and the fans shunned him..he's so ****** that he wouldnt mentally move on..that isnt arum's fault and this is coming from a guy who hates arum..bradley made manny respect range for every round until the last 15 seconds and he landed good work just bc it wasnt crowd pleasing meant nothing..bradley killed himself by being heart driven and ****** bc the tards heckled him after lampley and hbo blindly called that fight..emanual steward went mute for so long bc he got tard of participating the 3 blind mice show involving lampley lederman and kellerman..

[DARKSEID]

isnt a most effective way if the guy is tall but if u are the taller fighter u launch, well i should say LOOP, a right hand over the top of the shoulder and aim for the top of the head ...and the jab is great against it to unless the guy catches it well with his mit..if he catches it feint it and send a left hook...and also dont respect his back punch that too...if u get him on the ropes use your head to square his shoulder up to you and work when u get him square..

my son would kill floyd if floyd was an am today..my son is fast, quick hands, can boxing or stalk it dont matter we do it all in the gym..floyd can do it all but he wouldnt be big enough

I don't see how that would work lol since the entire point of the shoulder roll against an orthodox fighter is to roll away from the right hand to counter.

I think the most effective way to attack a shoulder roll is to work the body and constantly turn him out of position. Or close the distance and work on him on the inside.

all of that i explained i dont see manny doing none of it in his fights and he's not ortho so it wouldnt work anyways..and yes u can invert the role to work on southpaws by turning the opposite direction getting inside manny's left hand and ducking under his wild underdeveloped right hookin..floyd will cause a clinch doing this and work the mess out of manny on the inside with head control manny will simply try to run out..imo manny's the runner in this fight..

he knows one way if he cant get that way he runs..floyd knows bunches of ways and using the ring is just part of strategy its not an every round thing

You're saying Mayweather is going to go southpaw to fight Pacquuaio lol? That's the most ******ed thing I ever heard.

The shoulder roll is inneffective against a southpaw because it's wide open for a straight left and a right hook- two of Pacquiao's best punches.

[tiliheels]

It's good to be proud of ones seeds...all this is some really extra ****. Best of luck to ya'll with all that.

5 or 6 years u gone hear before the fight "the undefeated" and after the fight u gone hear "and the new....!!!"

matte fact that gone be our nickname for every title shot we get FIRSTNAME "AND THE NEW" LASTNAME

[H-Tok]

There's 10 days left and there still no tickets sold to the public?

[tiliheels]

[QUOTE=Genius~;15594082]I don't see how that would work lol since the entire point of the shoulder roll against an orthodox fighter is to roll away from the right hand to counter.

I think the most effective way to attack a shoulder roll is to work the body and constantly turn him out of position. Or close the distance and work on him on the inside.

u can roll all u want, but if its coming over the top its gone catch that head..look at broner chino floyd chino...the way u adjust to the loop is to ducking up under it like its a big hook...u work the body and u gone get ripped to the head with uppercuts that snap your head back and mess up your equilibrium..floyd dont punch hard so his uppercut can bet taken..if a big puncher hit u with that counter night night u wont be work nothing but that 10 count..nobody rolls on the inside they give u a shoulder and make u respect their back bc its illegal to hit ther..and they punch witht he right hand defending with th whole right side of the body..its easier said than done b/c any fighter using that style is likely very complete

[bimhead]

What a crock of shhh..funny when antagonizers play the victim. I'm not even going to get into that statement about what your kid said (families and spouses are always off limits) but keep in mind as a father you are supposed to have his best interest at heart perhaps publicly stating your kid refuses to represent the same country he one day hopes to go pro in and be in line to cash checks from ISN'T EXACTLY THE BRIGHTEST IDEA TO PUBLICIZE WHILE GIVING US WAYS OF IDENTIFYING HIM IF HE EVER DOES GO PRO. You are no different than the people you are complaining about, much like plenty of the others on here who play "i don't like this guy or that guy because I don't identify with him". At the end of the day 70% of this site is full of loyalists to only 2-3 boxers but claim to be legit boxing fans. Fight night may the better man win without any of the bullshhh and any of the f'ing argument the rest of us have had to sadly endure for the past 6 years of this homerfest.

so true..i'm just thrilled to see another superfight,and when it's over i'll still be enjoying the fights...and it's never been personal...it's just one of my passions.

[PRBOXINGCOTTO]

arum sthu you fat pig your the b side

[tiliheels]

You're saying Mayweather is going to go southpaw to fight Pacquuaio lol? That's the most ******ed thing I ever heard.

The shoulder roll is inneffective against a southpaw because it's wide open for a straight left and a right hook- two of Pacquiao's best punches.[/QUOTE]

i didnt say he's going southpaw..i said he can used the roll with an inverted turn..bradley even did vs manny...they throw the left and u roll your right shoulder inside the punch and get into his chest....if u feel like catching it instead of inverting the role u can do that too and with floyd being so much taller it will be easy for him to get a glove up bc manny will be punching upward
..my eyes tellme floyd has a good 2.5 inches..but from studying floyd that is not the only stances he'll go with regardless of who he is fighting..its never 12 rounds of any one thing with floyd NEVER..ONLY ONCE THE BALDO FIGHT HE HAD TO RUN ALL NIGHT BC HIS HAND WAS HURTING..IT WAS 12 ROUNDS OF POTSHOTTING

[DARKSEID]

u can roll all u want, but if its coming over the top its gone catch that head..look at broner chino floyd chino...the way u adjust to the loop is to ducking up under it like its a big hook...u work the body and u gone get ripped to the head with uppercuts that snap your head back and mess up your equilibrium..floyd dont punch hard so his uppercut can bet taken..if a big puncher hit u with that counter night night u wont be work nothing but that 10 count..nobody rolls on the inside they give u a shoulder and make u respect their back bc its illegal to hit ther..and they punch witht he right hand defending with th whole right side of the body..its easier said than done b/c any fighter using that style is likely very complete

A downward looping punch is not an effective punch in ANY school of boxing or any school of martial arts lol

If you try to throw a downward looping punch, not only will it have no power, but it leaves you wide open for an easy counter lol

[tiliheels]

A downward looping punch is not an effective punch in ANY school of boxing or any school of martial arts for that matter lol

If you try to throw a downward looping punch, not only will it have no power, but it leaves you wide open for an easy counter lol

NOW DO ME A FAVOR AND GO WATCH CHINO KICK BRONERS ASS WITH LOOPING RIGHT HANDS..and watch him bust floyd in the top of the head in the beginning of the first fight round 1..floyd adjusted by dipping under the shot when he forgot to dip one time he rolled and got caught again.. i know wat im talkin about son..my son fights ppl who uses the roll well..and he goes over the top of that shoulder at 6'1 without looping...but i've seen 5'8 guys go over the top of it too..the purpose is to score on the roll not to knock it out..ifu can show them u can score on it they'll get out of it and then u got a wider target..some people just aint good enough to use it if u got a guy rolling under, not away from, your shots u might wanna rethink it bc he's good