Mayweather says he is better than ALI and sugar ray robinson
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Nothing wrong with Ped Mayflower thinking or claiming he the best he just needs to prove it and stop them chronic ducking and serial cherry picking of opponents. No amount of TBE chants from ignorant fanboys or yes man can make him TBE. EVER.Comment
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No way is Pacquiao a better offensive fighter than SRR. He may be top 5 but he doesn't fight inside, and when you are talking about the best offensive fighters this would in my opinion be a must. I would put Ray Robinson definitely above him, he was absolutely destructive, plus he had a great jab and a better inside game, he was dangerous in more positions in a boxing ring. The crazy thing is you can't even see footage of him at his very best, most of the fights and highlights available are a faded version against bigger guys.Comment
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There is a problem when one of your arguments is that Ali only fought in one weight class. The problem is that you sound like an idiot.Comment
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Of course he is NOT but i speak from a FANS PROSPECTIVE and not a BOXERS PROSPECTIVE!
From a Boxers prospective if you gave your entire life to this sport...why the *** would your goal be to settle for #2 or #3? That is what separate Good From Great IMO, some athletes have that drive to get to the very top while most are OK with being #2 or #3. It is hard to achieve greatness with that "Accepting Not Being The Best Mentality"
His ERA did not have enough talent for me to consider him "Better Than Ali". A Win over Pacquiao does NOTHING for his legacy IMO, maybe solidify him as Top 20 all time I guess?
His ERA did not produce enough talent for him to compete against which is not his fault but that is what happened. I struggle to put Mayweather up with or ahead of Ray Leonard to be honest because again Ray was in a ERA that had a lot of talent in and around his Division and he fought them.
Even with the fighters who Mayweather is accused of Ducking, neither of them turned out to be All Time Greats or anything to remember so not even fighting and beating them would have helped.
Perspective. The word you're trying to use is perspective.Comment
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His technique is worlds above Ali and probably edges out Robinson.
This is coming from someone who would point and laugh if Floyd croaked in the ring. Not a fl0mo, just not fooled by nostalgia.
Unfortunately we will never know for sure because he spent his better years generally taking the safe road.Comment
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Nostalgia is a blinding thing
To be fair, when you get to a cetain level, you are allowed to feel you are the best.
What would be disrespectful is if someone the level of Broner or Canelo compared themselves to Ali.
When you are a multiple time world champ, P4P, On top of your game for years, you have ever right to feel that you are the best.Comment
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I do think he is the closest we have had to a technically perfect fighter. I think his ability to nullify opponents without moving is what gives him an advantage over most others. I think between him and Pernell, I give a slight edge to Floyd based on a more potent offensive arsenal for me. I think he is that bit more precise than Ali in everything he does, but then again Ali was a much bigger man so its difficult to compare a nimble lightweight/welterweight to a nimble heavyweight. SRR was naturally bigger, made a lot more mistakes but was much more destructive, the same with SRL. I would say they are all in the same league and its who you like more. The main thing which counts against Floyd when you put him against any of these guys is his level of competition just doesn't stack up, so its really hard to make a case for him against Ali or SRL in particular. Could he deal with Hearns speed and power?
Saying that he makes less mistakes than any fighter in history and when he does make mistakes he almost immediately corrects them. He totally disarms the other fighter. I think he is in the argument with anyone in the top 20 in history and I'm not a Mayweather fan in the slightest. I do feel the first Castillo fight was a draw, and I believe Floyd had a bad night. For my money the only fighters who may have beaten him around his generation was a prime Oscar, a prime Shane had a decent punchers chance based on what he was able to do at 38, and Vernon Forrest. Paul Williams at 147 would have been highly competitive too.
Great post!Comment
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